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Nissan tells workers closure of key Oppama plant not decided

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Hard to believe anything Nissan says.

-12 ( +20 / -32 )

If you were to be an employee for that company would you try to find a new job and leave the company in your own terms, or just trust the official and wait for the layoff really happen to you?

-7 ( +12 / -19 )

sakurasuki

If you were to be an employee for that company would you try to find a new job and leave the company in your own terms, or just trust the official and wait for the layoff really happen to you?

I guess it depends on the employee’s age and their family and employment conditions.

But most should probably be exploring opportunities elsewhere.

12 ( +17 / -5 )

reports of its planned closure were not definitive, according to some workers at the factory.

According to "some workers at the factory" ? ?

Maybe ask someone with more authority?

Worker: "Am I gonna be fired?"

Manager: "Ye--.. uh.. not sure yet.."

Reporter: "Will the factory be closing?"

Worker: "Not sure. Maybe."

0 ( +9 / -9 )

Could this be the curse of Carlos Ghosn? Bring him over here as CEO again and if he could turn the ailing car manufacturer around, he’d go free. If not, 20 years in prison.

-12 ( +7 / -19 )

@Meiyouwenti

Japan already got their fair share in the past to attract foreign CEO, and look what Japan did to them.

Now try to attract foreign execs from abroad, will Japan get foreign execs line up. What will happen is the opposite, recruiter need to convince them really hard. Many issues, from cultural, language to Japanese death tax even after leaving Japan.

-17 ( +11 / -28 )

I had a cush teaching gig there decades ago. Nice people so I hope it works out.

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Most of the affected workers aren’t even employees of Nissan. They all work for dispatch companies. Layoffs are a major reason why Japanese companies use dispatch workers in the first place.

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sakurasuki

Japan already got their fair share in the past to attract foreign CEO, and look what Japan did to them.

Many issues, from cultural, language to Japanese death tax even after leaving Japan.

That death tax, or inheritance tax, is an issue I never considered. Aren’t a deceased’s worldwide assets subject to inheritance/gift tax that can rise to 55% for five years after leaving Japan?

I’m sure these high-paid executives can employ the right people to avoid these taxes, but to be honest, I don’t really know.

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I’m sure these high-paid executives can employ the right people to avoid these taxes, but to be honest, I don’t really know.

A retired accountant here in Japan has told me there are indeed various ways to circumvent the inheritance tax.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Callous, unforgivable behaviour.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Nissan sales world wide '23 to '24 were flat.

Sales declined in Japan and China, but went up in every other market.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

The Carlos Ghosn fiasco sealed Nissan's fate.

-9 ( +10 / -19 )

Not very reassuring for the employees. Good that the municipality would like to help employees out by looking for reemployment for them. But I hope they don't help Nissan to stay afloat. Let the company sink.

And like David Brent mentioned above, most are haken-sha-in and not seisha-in. The more reason to let them sink.

To add to that, you know how we joke about Chinese knock-off products being copies of other products? Well, Nissan does that as well. The break down products down to the individual parts, rebuild and copy paste. They just don't do it within Nissan, but give the contracts to smaller companies (I know some in Kanagawa). These smaller companies are employed not by their own company staff but by 3 months long contracts hakensha-in, renewed every three months.

Let the company sink.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

deanzaZZR - you’re right, decades ago they were a nice people

-12 ( +0 / -12 )

A retired accountant here in Japan has told me there are indeed various ways to circumvent the inheritance tax.

Of, course! Very similar to how they do it in the US.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Nissan needs to retool plants to produce the cars people want, EVs and Hybrids, likely using Chinese partners to do so. EVs perfect for Japan, as people don't drive much annually vs. other countries, overnight charging at home's cheap and convenient, no oil changes etc.

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What workers want in this kind of situation from its employer is clearity and honesty. Regretfully 2 qualities unknown to Nissan. Workers can prepare for their future when they get as much advance warning if possible, compensation and respect.

Of course the plant will close. But Nissan needs time to minimize the financial and logistic impact and so they let its employees wait and live in uncertainty.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

"Nissan tells workers closure of key Oppama plant not decided."

Are you closing "yes" or "no" you need to make it clear to the employees. Otherwise you gonna have confused and demoralized people on the floor.

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