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Mike_Oxlong
Japan has that quaint idea of national sovereignty. Thankfully. Globalsts go home.
tora
One wonders what the motivation is of this continued interference in Japanese affairs by these globalists.
Five Families
The UN has no right to interfetre with Japanese monarchy what so ever. Or any monarchy from any country.
The UN is always over stepping its bounds culturally.
Yubaru
Even when Japanese history has had female empresses? I mean really, if there were only guys who sat on the throne, over all those years, I'd get it, but, there have been women too, so it aint interfering, it's just pushing for women's rights!
Negative Nancy
I think its a logical means of avoiding the succession crises, but I totally agree that the UN should keep their noses out.
Wasabi
Maybe stop this Middle Ages tradition?
Geeter Mckluskie
How is this significant to anyone who isn't in the Royal Family?
OssanAmerica
How is this any freaking business of the UN?
Article 2.7 of the UN Charter:
"7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.”
https://legal.un.org/repertory/art2_7.shtml
SapperJon
The UN is changing into a woke organisation outside of its original purpose. It's clearly up to Japan to decide on domestic law not some kind of third-world dominated organisation where influence is purchased by Russia and especially China
Rakuraku
Interestingly, the male-only succession rule was not originally a Japanese concept. Historically, Japan had seven reigning empresses. The male-only succession model was influenced by the Prussian system, which maintained strict male-line inheritance. Japan adopted this approach in the 1889 Meiji Constitution, which formally restricted imperial succession to males in order to align with Western standards of monarchy.
Simon Foston
SapperJonToday 07:26 pm JST
So you don't think a woman can or should serve as a constitutional monarch even though it's a longstanding custom in other countries?
Luis David Yanez
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LDP Politician out of sync with most of the Japanese population ✔️
Simon Foston
How can that be when the original Imperial Household Law isn't much more than a century old?
These crusty old dinosaurs always come out with this kind of half-baked nonsense to justify their misogyny.
itsonlyrocknroll
How dare the UN very much, Japan imperial succession is a matter, and ONLY a matter for Japan nation its people.
It is outrageous politically motivated interference into Japan cultural heritage, ⸨◺_◿⸩ fix bayonets.
OKuniyoshi
Its Japan sovereign issue. If this organization has the time/resources? Please look into real discriminations/human rights/etc issues, what the big powers did to the G South, eg Vietnam/Afica/S America/the greater Asia. Their legacy are still haunting these places.
Moonraker
Well, the people are fine with a female emperor, according to the polls. Does that count for something? If so then maybe time for the UN to put a little pressure on those resisting. After all, Japan signed up for scrutiny, even if it doesn't like the result.
itsonlyrocknroll
Moonraker, all a matter for the people of Japan when they feel the issue needs public debate.
The UN at present is unfit for purpose, it is politically dysfunctional, UN actions and responses to a incendiary middle east war is reckless, has inflamed a situation that could descend rapidly into an all out conflict.
Israel has basically rendered UN presence in Gaza a meaningless irrelevance. Contending UN supports Hamas.
That is before Ukraine.
itsonlyrocknroll
Sorry Moonraker I also support a female line of succession, I am simply irritated the UN feels it is necessary, within their remint wallow in sanctimony.
James
Unless of course some royal Japanese family pressed the United Nations to include it since their voices at home are ignored...
Simon Foston
RakurakuToday 07:30 pm JST
Indeed. So much for "the foundations of Japan as a country" or whatever scabby old men in the LDP dribble on about.
Forst
As most foreign people here, I don't care much about the imperial family (and would prefer to see it end), but such advices from the UN, whose UNESCO is constantly "praising" the Japanese heritage, are clearly not welcomed.
What's the point of making such recommendations at first? Justify your salary and moral superiority?
DanteKH
O think people misunderstood Un intentions. Un doesn't dictate the Constitution of each country, it just expresses certain feelings based on the current World Order. Being part of the UN as a country brings certain respindabilities, and also obligations. That's is all.
theFu
There are a number of basic things that are necessary for equality of the sexes to be possible. This is 1. Eventually, Japan will get there.
It is Japanese Men who don't like this and a few women. But if you ask 15 yr old girls and younger who have never been pre-taught anything, bet they'd say it is possible for a woman. Society will catch up to common sense. Took other parts of the world many centuries too.
Sven Asai
How even dare they, where do those individuals have received such extraordinarily bad manners and insufficient education from? They are completely outside of the nobles' world and simply cannot meddle in from their lowest level. The only theoretical way would be, that someone of the UN marries a noble person or is adopted as family member by a noble person. Then and only then such a person privately, not by UN function, can come up with such internal issues actively. Anything else has of course to be processed passively. If first the Imperial family considers and wishes for a change of succession rules, then changes are possible.
socrateos
theFu:
But sooner or later, they will learn about freedom, independence, sovereignty, history, cultures, traditions, and yes, even patriotism. And they will ask themselves, 'Why do we have to keep obeying demands from abroad? Who do they think they are?"
purple_depressed_bacon
What's between your legs doesn't affect how you can rule; it's what's between your ears and behind your ribs that does. If memory serves, Japan's had what, 8? empresses throughout its history? And the entire Japanese civilisation and society didn't crumble and collapse when a woman sat on the throne then. So how about ditching such an archaic law that has no place in the modern world, and letting the most competent royal candidate to ascend to the throne when it's time?
Hercolobus
Exactly! It is called meddling and interfering in a sovereign nation’s own affairs.
Peter Neil
it’s not about the sex of the emperor, it’s about men not wanting to be subservient to a woman.
when the population goes down to the last dozen or so, there may only be women left, since they outlive men.
virusrex
If a country has explicitly called for equality of gender as an objective then there is every point for international organizations that promte such equality to complain about a clear instance where the country is contradicting such declaration. Japan can ignore the call, but at the same time it recognizes it is incongruent with its own position.
Simon Foston
Sven AsaiToday 02:42 am JST
Do you think this is the 11th Century? Japan doesn't have any nobles any more. This issue is about one person whose role is entirely determined by the Japanese Constitition. Unless I'm mistaken that wasn't written by anyone from the aristocracy, while it still existed.
No, it's possible right now because the elected representatives of ordinary people can vote to revise the Imperial Household Law in the National Diet.
Simon Foston
socrateosToday 02:45 am JST
Rather dumb questions then, because this isn't a 'demand' that anyone has to 'obey.'
Agent_Neo
Currently, the Japanese Imperial Family is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records, proving that it has the oldest lineage.
There are clearly countries that are not happy about this.
The Japanese Communist Party has been calling for the abolition of the Emperor System.
I mean, you can probably tell which country it is, right?
And there have certainly been female emperors in the past.
But they only served as regents until the male emperor came of age. It would be good to think again about what is needed to recognize a lineage that has continued since before Christ.
This is not a simple matter of gender equality at all.
And if the UN wants to impose Western value judgments on other countries, they should first make the Pope a woman at least once and then try again.
And allow Islam to introduce a female leader.
At least after that, they can talk with Japan.