University of Tokyo considers accepting Harvard foreign students if barred

It still under consideration, not necessarily being decided. In Japan it will take more time to decide things.

Just wait until those students' patient being tested when opening bank account, cell phone registration and even finding housing in Japan.

This is exactly what the conservative-leaning Wall Street Journal editorial board predicted when it wrote, “[Trump’s attack on Harvard] is the opposite of making America great.”

The board continued in its condemnation:

This will be terribly damaging to America’s ability to attract talented young people who bring their enterprise and intellectual capital to the U.S. Non-citizens accounted for more than half of doctoral degrees in AI-related fields in 2022. Many have gone to work at U.S. companies like Nvidia or started their own.

The National Foundation for American Policy finds that “immigrants have founded or cofounded nearly two-thirds (65% or 28 of 43) of the top AI companies in the United States, and 70% of full-time graduate students in fields related to artificial intelligence are international students.” Immigrants have also started more than half of America’s privately-held startups valued at $1 billion or more.

Even if it’s modified, Ms. Noem’s order will echo around the world as a signal that the U.S. is no longer open to educate the world’s brightest young people. Foreign students will get the message and take their talents elsewhere. China’s politburo must be laughing at their good luck that their main adversary is hamstringing itself—first with tariffs that make its firms less competitive, and now with an assault on immigrant talent.

In Japan it will take more time to decide things.

Some things they do kind of fast.

This will be terribly damaging to America’s ability to attract talented young people

Thanks Trump. Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Tucker & Hannnity on FOX can no longer say the USA has the most advanced medical research in the world.

Tokyo University is not on a par with Harvard

Just wait until those students' patient being tested when opening bank account, cell phone registration and even finding housing in Japan.

It is not difficult for institutions like TU to provide a coordinator to facilitate those things for students and researchers that it invites.

27% of Harvard undergraduate and graduate students are foreign students who pay extraordinarily high tuition. The excess tuition is used for financial aid to domestic out-of-state and in-state students. 

At the undergraduate level, Harvard is need-blind for domestic and international students.

Harvard promises to meet 100% of the demonstrated financial need of all admitted students, including international students.

So, if you come from a low-income family unable to pay Harvard’s high tuition, room and board, and fees, Harvard will cover the balance.

Only a handful of U.S. schools offer need-blind undergraduate admissions for international students: Harvard, Princeton, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown (from Fall 2025), Amherst, and Bowdoin.

LOL.

Talk about a downgrade.

That is a significant downgrade though. Harvard and Todai are not in the same league.

Cheeky attempt for Todai to ride the Harvard coattail and bask in some reflected light 沾光。

That is the light and truth.

The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology made this offer a few days ago. (somewhat surprisingly to me at least the 66th ranked global university based on the The Times Higher Education rankings)

Japan and Europe are welcoming all not-uneducated, you know all that will not vote for trump. Big lost for the US, a win for the rest of the world.

@Peter Neil

Need-blind for admission. Need-based for financial aid.

Financial aid cannot be used for financial requirements for a US student visa. You must show liquid assets to cover tuition and living expenses for a year without using financial aid. That means most international students will not qualify for needs-based assistance.

Peter,

The information you provide is incorrect.

Let me direct you to the Department of Homeland Security website:

A prospective student must have financial evidence showing that they or a sponsor has sufficient funds to cover tuition and living expenses during the period of intended study. Evidence of financial ability includes but is not limited to:

Family bank statements.

Documentation from a sponsor.

Financial aid letters.

Scholarship letters.

Letter from an employer showing annual salary.

—

https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/students/prepare/financial-ability

These foreign students are facing racist fascist attitudes by the Usa's. Why would you to study under a neo fascist regime. Come to Japan and study in one of best society in the world. Stay in Fascist town and they will be targeted for racial absue. Young bright student do need to be expose the Usa'a type of inhuman treatment. They might get better educate at the expense of selling your sole to the devil. Come to Japan.

Tokyo University is no Harvard, it ranks 30th in the world, way below my alma mater ucla. So who the hell would go from Harvard to todai, When there are other great universities in America.

Tokyo University is no Harvard, it ranks 30th in the world, way below my alma mater ucla. So who the hell would go from Harvard to todai, When there are other great universities in America.

Other countries are a much more likely alternative, all american universities share the same disadvantage right now, a government fixed in reducing the importance of education and science while pushing for retrograde antiscientific concepts, Harvard is just the one resisting right now, but others will either become much diminished institutions or be treated the same thanks to the government intromission.

I facilitated some discussion classes at Todai via an adult language school for a spell. Found the students to be not so extra special compared to the average uni students in the States. However, they were more outspoken and opinionated compared with my uni students at another uni in Tokyo. And they slipped into "debate mode" easier. Could have just been a statistical anomaly though -- those that are more confident and eager to debate sign up for discussion classes.

David BrentToday  08:05 am JST

LOL.

Talk about a downgrade.

LOL. As if you could get into TU.

It's a mad scramble around the world trying to capture the brain drain fleeing the Trump regime.

WhatsAllThisThen

I facilitated some discussion classes at Todai via an adult language school for a spell. Found the students to be not so extra special compared to the average uni students in the States. However, they were more outspoken and opinionated compared with my uni students at another uni in Tokyo. And they slipped into "debate mode" easier. Could have just been a statistical anomaly though -- those that are more confident and eager to debate sign up for discussion classes.

Could also be arrogance, snobbery, and a sense of entitlement that seems to go hand-in-hand with the type of people who attend/graduate from TU.

Pretty funny idea!

@Peter Neil

Thanks for the info, Asiaman7.

Seems like conflicting information.

UCIS (Citizens and Immigration Service) says:

Got a link for the above Q&A?

I get the opposite info when I search, including the following from USCIS:

Evidence of financial ability for prospective F-1 and M-1 students includes, but is not limited to:

Family bank statements;

Documentation from a sponsor;

Financial aid letters;

Scholarship letters; and

A letter from an employer showing annual salary.

—

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-2-part-f-chapter-2#

Well these students will end up going somewhere else but with that attitude from Haven I hope they take it somewhere else far from Todai.

For the Japanese students there I can see that this might be attractive if they can't continue at Harvard. Perhaps it will not be a huge inflow, but still.

The elite of tomorrow will not come from the USA but Europe, Japan and others country.

The end of the US as we knew it until trump.

Do you feel great now?

Well these students will end up going somewhere else but with that attitude from Haven I hope they take it somewhere else far from Todai.

What attitude you are talking about? the barred students have done absolutely nothing but aim for Harvard, the reason why they may not enter is entirely due to Trump's attitude.

US universities should consider dropping their w0ke cul7ist indoctrination and return to being actual centres of education like they used to be.

When is this supposed period where universities had only drones perfectly obedient of what the government said to be done?

"The elite of tomorrow will not come from the USA but Europe, Japan and others country.

The end of the US as we knew it until trump.

Do you feel great now?"

Unlike the past governments, President Trump is striving to bring equality of opportunities which will make more thrive thus extending the US dominance for many more generations to come. Europe is way past her glorious years and Japan aging society and the ever declining childbirth makes things difficulty for future generations.

That's a good consideration for University of Tokyo (UofT). Just a couple of things with this.

There is absolutely NO legal basis for Trump's actions against Harvard. If you don't believe me, there's a YouTube video of an interview with a Harvard professor about this.

Wouldn't the courses at UofT be conducted in Japanese?

One can say that UofT is ranked lower than Harvard. However, I think what is more concerning is that would their university courses be a good fit or on level with Harvard and not just taking a side step in level of ease.

One can make a case of the caliber of professors and the university academic systems of both universities.

President Trump is striving to bring equality of opportunities which will make more thrive thus extending the US dominance for many more generations to come.

Maga is strong with you.

bring equality of opportunities

That not how it is working. Banning some people/student is the opposite of equality.

This is a good opportunity for Japan and China universities..

I agree with the commenter who said Tokyo University is not on a par with Harvard. It doesn’t have a feud with the eccentric leader of its nation for one.

, while the legality of the administration's decision is under review.

First for me to have read about a legal challenge regarding trump's decisions

"Maga is strong with you."

Not far from the truth, please feel free to call me "King MAGA"

"That not how it is working. Banning some people/student is the opposite of equality."

If they behaved they could not be in that situation in the first place. What MAGA does differently is that we don't pick winners and losers that's what equality of opportunities mean, let every man/ woman win according to his/ her skills not according to skin color, gender or sexual orientations.

Unlike the past governments, President Trump is striving to bring equality of opportunities which will make more thrive thus extending the US dominance for many more generations to come.

Defunding universities, eliminating laboratories, firing scientific committees, eliminating student visas, cancelling clinical trials is not bringing equality of opportunities unless you mean zero opportunities for everybody equally.

China, Europe and countries in other regions do not have this heavy handicap and instead are trying to actually push for the development of science and higher studies, the space the US is giving is not going to go wasted.

If they behaved they could not be in that situation in the first place

A blanked ban means that students that have no problematic behavior are included, unless you can prove every single student broke the law that argument is still invalid no matter how many times you try to use it.

Harvard University courses are in English; would the University of Tokyo provide the same?

What MAGA does differently is that we don't pick winners and losers that's what equality of opportunities mean, let every man/ woman win according to his/ her skills not according to skin color, gender or sexual orientation

That’s the best laugh I’ve had in ages, thanks for that!

Just curious, how does Japan make this list? Personally I see Japanese society increasingly drawing inward and seemingly content as a declining power.

The elite of tomorrow will not come from the USA but Europe, Japan and others country.

Going with The Times World Rankings it breaks down thusly: (Top 50)

Peking/Beijing #13

Tsinghua/Qinghua #14

Nat'l Univ. of Singapore #17

Tokyo #28

Nanyang Tech. (Singapore) #30

Univ. Hong Kong #35

Fudan (China) #36

Chinese Univ. of Hong Kong #44

Zhejiang (China) #47

This is a good opportunity for Japan and China universities.

@garypen

Could also be arrogance, snobbery, and a sense of entitlement that seems to go hand-in-hand with the type of people who attend/graduate from TU.

Very good point.

The US continues to lose highly educated talent due to the right wing agenda. This will set America back decades, maybe will never recover.

Asia and Europe have started hiring many fired government employs in defense and technology, as well as scientists.

America is no longer the place for higher education.

All Harvard has to do is comply with the Trump Admin's legal request, disclose the exact names of those attending Harvard on student visas. Surely most students will pose no 'national security' threat to the US.

No other University in US is out of 'compliance' with US State Dept 'vetting' of students on visas. It's only Harvard that's the outlier and they will comply, just a question of when and how much damage done to their reputation.

World class. They should do it immediately as well as offer Harvards world rebounds processors to teach. Tokyo University is an amazing school.

The universities in Japan are a play ground for those who can’t get into other top tier universities in China, US and Europe.

人生の春休み Spring break is what they call college life in Japan. のみさ、バイト、ヤッバ来週期末試験。

No other University in US is out of 'compliance' with giving Trump bribes

Good point

disclose the exact names of those attending Harvard on student visas

Just that one simple thing???That's all??? Then Trump will leave HU alone 100% forever? Things will go back to normal?

LOL. As if you could get into TU.

Thank goodness I didn't have to stoop so low, having got my degree from a university ranked far higher.

27% of Harvard undergraduate and graduate students are foreign students who pay extraordinarily high tuition. The excess tuition is used for financial aid to domestic out-of-state and in-state students.

Absolutely incorrect. Harvard is a private school. International students do NOT pay more than American students.

@Peter Neil “27% of Harvard undergraduate and graduate students are foreign students who pay extraordinarily high tuition. The excess tuition is used for financial aid to domestic out-of-state and in-state students.”

Absolutely incorrect. Harvard is a private university. International students do not pay more tuition than Americans to attend.

Local Gaijin

Today 01:02 pm JST

27% of Harvard undergraduate and graduate students are foreign students who pay extraordinarily high tuition. The excess tuition is used for financial aid to domestic out-of-state and in-state students.

> Absolutely incorrect. Harvard is a private school. International students do NOT pay more than American students.

Because Harvard is a private school , intl students do not pay more than American students?

Why?

Anyway quick search top result:

If a later ruling allows the ban to move forward, Harvard would feel the pinch immediately: 27 percent of its student body, or some 6,800 attendees, in the 2024-2025 academic year was made up of international students, who typically pay more in tuition and other costs

https://tinyurl.com/383z8c6d

"Harvard's tuition and fees are determined by a student's family's income and financial circumstances. Harvard operates on a 100% need-based financial aid policy, meaning families with incomes below a certain threshold are not expected to contribute to their student's cost of attendance. "

"Students from families with incomes below $100,000 will have their entire cost of attendance covered, including tuition, food, housing, health insurance, and travel. Families with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000 will also receive substantial aid, with tuition potentially covered by grants. "

wallace

Today 02:07 pm JST

"Harvard's tuition and fees are determined by a student's family's income and financial circumstances. Harvard operates on a 100% need-based financial aid policy, meaning families with incomes below a certain threshold are not expected to contribute to their student's cost of attendance. "

> "Students from families with incomes below $100,000 will have their entire cost of attendance covered, including tuition, food, housing, health insurance, and travel. Families with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000 will also receive substantial aid, with tuition potentially covered by grants. "

So on average does a foreign student pay less or more than a domestic one?

ian

So on average does a foreign student pay less or more than a domestic one?

If they are paying the fees, they are the same, but international students have higher college add-ons and additional expenses like travel.

wallace

Today 02:21 pm JST

ian

> So on average does a foreign student pay less or more than a domestic one?

> If they are paying the fees, they are the same, but international students have higher college add-ons and additional expenses like travel.

Wasn't the discussion just about the fees the students are paying to the institution?

You mean the discussion was about the total expenses of foreign students compared to local ones?

"Defunding universities, eliminating laboratories, firing scientific committees, eliminating student visas, cancelling clinical trials is not bringing equality of opportunities unless you mean zero opportunities for everybody equally.

China, Europe and countries in other regions do not have this heavy handicap and instead are trying to actually push for the development of science and higher studies, the space the US is giving is not going to go wasted."

Yes, all that crap need to be defunded bearing in mind they are just cash mincing machine with no tangible outcome except fear mongering. Case and point during COVID-19. If you consider stopping waste as the end of equality of opportunities then that's a good thing! Mind you China and Europe existed before those students hit the shores of the mighty USA, they could have gone there in the first place of those places were so appealing right?

ian

Wasn't the discussion just about the fees the students are paying to the institution?

I am talking about the additional fees charged to international students by Harvard.

International students may face additional costs beyond tuition, such as mandatory fees, housing, and other living expenses, which can increase their overall cost. 

The standard cost of attendance for international students at Harvard University is $101,974, which includes tuition, fees, living expenses, and books. This also includes the cost of individual return airfare. Some international programs may require additional certification, such as the Teaching & Teacher Leadership Program, which has an extra $3,150. 

"As of the 2024-2025 academic year, the tuition is approximately $56,500 per year. But remember, this is just the tuition – you'll also need to budget for additional expenses, such as room and board, books and supplies, personal expenses, and health insurance, which bring the total cost of attendance to about $82,800 per year."

"But even if you're an international student, Harvard's generous financial aid policies apply to you just like they would a U.S. student. This means that your family will be expected to contribute based on their income, with those making under $85,000 not having to contribute anything at all. Even families earning between $85,000 and $150,000 will typically pay between 0 and 10% of their annual income. Harvard's goal is that students should graduate debt-free, so financial aid packages do not include loans."

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/141638/what-are-the-tuition-fees-like-for-international-students-at-harvard-university#:~:text=The%20tuition%20for%20international%20students,is%20approximately%20%2456%2C500%20per%20year.

Good for Tokyo University to open its students for study if Trump starts shutting out Harvard students. Harvard's low would be Todai's gain.

"A blanked ban means that students that have no problematic behavior are included, unless you can prove every single student broke the law that argument is still invalid no matter how many times you try to use it."

A blanket ban sends message to all students regardless whether there was problematic behavior or not. All were included unless Harvard management could prove every single student didn't break the law. That argument is still valid no matter how many times you try to deny it

wallace

Today 02:33 pm JST

ian

> Wasn't the discussion just about the fees the students are paying to the institution?

> I am talking about the additional fees charged to international students by Harvard.

> International students may face additional costs beyond tuition, such as mandatory fees, housing, and other living expenses, which can increase their overall cost.

> The standard cost of attendance for international students at Harvard University is $101,974, which includes tuition, fees, living expenses, and books. This also includes the cost of individual return airfare. Some international programs may require additional certification, such as the Teaching & Teacher Leadership Program, which has an extra $3,150.

> "As of the 2024-2025 academic year, the tuition is approximately $56,500 per year. But remember, this is just the tuition – you'll also need to budget for additional expenses, such as room and board, books and supplies, personal expenses, and health insurance, which bring the total cost of attendance to about $82,800 per year."

> "But even if you're an international student, Harvard's generous financial aid policies apply to you just like they would a U.S. student. This means that your family will be expected to contribute based on their income, with those making under $85,000 not having to contribute anything at all. Even families earning between $85,000 and $150,000 will typically pay between 0 and 10% of their annual income. Harvard's goal is that students should graduate debt-free, so financial aid packages do not include loans."

> https://www.collegevine.com/faq/141638/what-are-the-tuition-fees-like-for-international-students-at-harvard-university#:~:text=The%20tuition%20for%20international%20students,is%20approximately%20%2456%2C500%20per%20year

so on average do foreign students pay more tuition and other school fees than domestic students? Same? Less?

Cephus

A blanket ban sends message to all students regardless whether there was problematic behavior or not. All were included unless Harvard management could prove every single student didn't break the law. That argument is still valid no matter how many times you try to deny it

I thought legally it was "innocent until proven guilty." The onus is on the government to prove the guilt and not on Harvard to prove the innocence.

Yes, all that crap need to be defunded bearing in mind they are just cash mincing machine with no tangible outcome except fear mongering.

That claim could not be more wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2025/03/12/nih-grants-fueled-95-billion-in-economic-activity-finds-new-report/

Its analysis shows that those grant awards supported 407,782 jobs and $94.58 billion in new economic activity nationwide, the largest figure in the history of the report. That translates to a return on investment of $2.56 for every $1 in awards.

The problem once again is that people that ignore the first thing about research and higher education think it never produces anything when in fact is one of the activities with higher returns and stimulus of economic activity.

Defunding "that crap" means direct loses on the tens of billions for the americans, and much more in indirect loses when all the new patents and products are developed in other countries (likely China) that will then sell it at the price they want to the US.

Not to count also that with this comment you are contradicting yourself when you claimed this was supposedly equal opportunities to all.

Case and point during COVID-19.

Exactly, most of the medical interventions that helped save millions of lives came as direct or indirect consequence of advances done because of american research. This completely contradicts your point again.

 If you consider stopping waste as the end of equality of opportunities then that's a good thing!

For China and the rest of the countries that will take hold of that money-making "waste" of course, for americans it is the end of the benefits that it produced for them. Is as much waste as the feed given to the golden-eggs hen.

A blanket ban sends message to all students regardless whether there was problematic behavior or not. 

And the message is that innocent people will be held hostage because of the very thin skin of people in power that don't tolerate protests of any kind and will declare every opposition as unlawful.

The opposite of transparency and freedom of speech.

It's pretty simple, Harvard must comply

Universities can only function properly as independent institutions, without interference from the government. As long as there is nothing against the law there is no justification on obligating universities to comply with undue control, vetting is an unjustified imposition.

Trump correctly points out Harvard has an unacceptably high % of foreign students

Unacceptable according to what law? a personal opinion is not justification to impose an arbitrary percentage.

If top students are being shut out of the U.S. for political reasons, then it’s smart and humane for Japan to offer them a lifeline. This isn’t about Harvard vs Todai rankings—it’s about protecting education, science, and future leaders from becoming casualties of culture wars.

"I thought legally it was "innocent until proven guilty." The onus is on the government to prove the guilt and not on Harvard to prove the innocence."

Yes Wallace, but the Harvard management is not cooperating. Leaving the government with very little to work on.

"And the message is that innocent people will be held hostage because of the very thin skin of people in power that don't tolerate protests of any kind and will declare every opposition as unlawful.

The opposite of transparency and freedom of speech."

It's not the government holding innocent people hostage but rather the Harvard management. And it takes a lot of balls and a tough skin to do what President Trump has done. Moreover, no one curtailing the freedom of speech that's why we are talking about it here. And talking about transparency what is the Harvard management trying to hide? That most of those foreign students are the children of global liberal politicians?

Cephus

"I thought legally it was innocent until proven guilty." The onus is on the government to prove the guilt and not on Harvard to prove the innocence."

Yes Wallace, but the Harvard management is not cooperating. Leaving the government with very little to work on.

But you are wrong. The government must show the guilt and not Harvard the innocence. It's the law that applies to all.

Imagine America, cop arrests you for a crime without being able to show any evidence, and then the arrested person must prove that they are innocent.

In a U.S. criminal trial, the burden of proof always rests on the prosecution. This means that the government must present enough evidence to prove the defendant's guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt." It is not the defendant's responsibility to prove their innocence. 

The Trump government has to show evidence of the international students taking part in last year's demonstrations at Harvard and prove they broke the law.

"But you are wrong. The government must show the guilt and not Harvard the innocence. It's the law that applies to all."

You are right again but the rest of the school obliged with the governments demands except Harvard making them the guilty party therefore the outcome depends with them.

Yes Wallace, but the Harvard management is not cooperating. Leaving the government with very little to work on.

That is still wrong, if they can't prove every student is guilty then it has no justification to work on punishing them all.

It's not the government holding innocent people hostage

Yes it is, they are holding their lives hostage as a way to force Harvard to subject itself to the unjustified demands of the president. Harvard did not make any ultimatum, did not put their visas on hold pending the subjugation of anybody else, the president did.

And it takes a lot of balls and a tough skin to do what President Trump has done

Bullying people and institutions misusing power do not require any effort, that is what the abuse of power allows, resisting is what takes courage.

no one curtailing the freedom of speech that's why we are talking about it here.

When the whole criminal offense is to protest that is precisely what is being done here, the same as cutting out the access to information of news outlets that criticize the president, or refusing to let congress examine detail of the actions of the president or irregularly conformed organizations like DOGE. He is openly trying to hide a wide variety of things, even to the point of refusing to accept foreign students just because of protests.

And talking about transparency what is the Harvard management trying to hide?

If Harvard was trying to hide anything the first thing it would do is to conform to the president, it did not.

That most of those foreign students are the children of global liberal politicians?

If that was true (which obviously is not, it makes no sense to think children of politicians would conform the majority of the students, we are not talking about 3-4 people here) that would not need to be hidden, it is not against the law. People inside cult-like organizations tend to forget that going against the wishes of their lider is not automatically wrong or against the law.

You are right again but the rest of the school obliged with the governments demands except Harvard making them the guilty party therefore the outcome depends with them.

Acting correctly is what should be expected, not simply accepting blackmail, this is as wrong as when you mistakenly though that money in science and higher education was wasted when in fact is one of the ways of spend money that is more productive economically.

Don't wait until other countries take. It is better to get the smart students sooner rather than later.

Punishing all the international students at Harvard University because of the actions of a few would be a form of collective punishment and would be illegal.

There were more white American students protesting israel at colleges. Better ban the white kids too, but we all know trump would never do that. America is back to the 1700s racism.

That most of those foreign students are the children of global liberal politicians?

Hm, can you give us some example of global liberal politicians? Or at least a definition.

"There were more white American students protesting israel at colleges. Better ban the white kids too, but we all know trump would never do that. America is back to the 1700s racism."

Seeing everything under the lense of race, is the worst imposed slavery you can ever imagine it hinders self growth

"Punishing all the international students at Harvard University because of the actions of a few would be a form of collective punishment and would be illegal."

It's their school punishing them, or what they need is comply with the government demands.

It's their school punishing them, or what they need is comply with the government demands.

No, it is still not, it is the president trying to eliminate freedom of speech by holding the students hostage to get their university to comply with undue intromission not based on any law, the university has no obligation to comply with a demand that is not based on any law, just a personal whim that he is trying to use as an excuse to keep dismantling science and higher education.

Universities can only function properly as independent institutions, without interference from the government. As long as there is nothing against the law there is no justification on obligating universities to comply with undue control, vetting is an unjustified imposition.

Simple, you want federal funds, you need to follow certain regulations.

Now Harvard could be independent, but then no federal funding, is simple, the government didn't put a fun to their heads, the rules for universities to receive federal funds are not a secret.

Going to HARVARD doesn't make you a genius. Its just a name, I know people who have attended the university of Connections and still they are clueless. Going to HARVARD is just a name associated with status. One thinks that Harvard is were the best students go, no its where the elite use their money and power to buy seats for their children to go there. The best schools you never hear of and they produce the most Rhode Scholars they attend Harvey Mudd, Claremont McKenna, these are the students that become the movers and shakers. You never hear about them because they are so closed and secretive!

Going to HARVARD doesn't make you a genius. Its just a name, I know people who have attended the university of Connections and still they are clueless. Going to HARVARD is just a name associated with status. One thinks that Harvard is were the best students go, no its where the elite use their money and power to buy seats for their children to go there. The best schools you never hear of and they produce the most Rhode Scholars they attend Harvey Mudd, Claremont McKenna, these are the students that become the movers and shakers. You never hear about them because they are so closed and secretive!

Got any recommendations for my eldest son who will graduate high school next year? How about Yale or MIT?

Got any recommendations for my eldest son who will graduate high school next year? How about Yale or MIT?

Needless to say, he won't be applying to Todai (or any other Japanese university that offers toilet paper degrees).

Why would anyone want to accept students who had been kicked out of another country? It boggles the mind!

University of Tokyo thank you for stepping up! Foreign students excel at this world class university!

World please do everything possible to counter and isolate tDump. He is simply poison.

Simple, you want federal funds, you need to follow certain regulations.

Are the students part of the "federal funds"? obviously not, that means this is a transparent hostage situation when Harvard did not accept arbitrary impositions.

Why would anyone want to accept students who had been kicked out of another country?

Since the students have demonstrated capacity and the kicking is done in spite because the institution they aimed for did not just folded for the whims of people in power this is a chance for other universities to get students above what they usually recruit. And do a PR stunt at the same time.

Seems to be some disdain for Tokyo University here, but surely it can’t be that bad with a decent number of Nobel laureates among its alumni and faculty, and its involvement in a range of significant scientific and mathematical research?

Got any recommendations for my eldest son who will graduate high school next year? How about Yale or MIT?

How about whichever one of those you graduated from?

No other University in US is out of 'compliance' with US State Dept 'vetting' of students on visas. It's only Harvard that's the outlier and they will comply, just a question of when and how much damage done to their reputation.

Damage? Pfft!

Harvard rocks its Veritas brand promise.

That's why Trump is so frightened.

HopeSpringsEternalMay 27 12:33 pm JST

No other University in US is out of 'compliance' with US State Dept 'vetting' of students on visas.

It's good you put 'vetting' in quotes because we all know it will just checking to see whether they had anything to say about Palestine.

All American visa applications are vetted by the immigration before issuing them.