60 dead, over 100 injured in Russia concert hall attack; Islamic State group claims responsibility

Attacks on civilians are to be condemned. Cowardly tactics used by terrorists worldwide.

But this is certainly indicative of how many groups within Russia have a hatred of the fascist government. Many ethnic groups and many regions have been oppressed and killed by the Russian government over decades. This attack is not a one-off.

I condemn this attack - civilians are never open game.

I wonder who did this. Zelensky has disavowed it, and Ukraine would not target civilians. This seems like something internal - maybe Chechens, or anti-Putin Russians.

It's sad for the citizens of Moscow.

This will only harden the resolve of the Russian people and strengthen unity as the hardliners inside Russia who warned that Russia is under attack have been vindicated.

Under attack by Russians.

As a lawless state, anyone could have been responsible, including the government.

I condemn attacks on civilians. RIP to the civilians.

The blood of these civilians is on Putin and the Kremlin's hands, for creating such hatred towards them by their own citizens. They should be ashamed.

It's time for peace. Go home from Ukraine, so your people stop thinking they have to attack each other to prove a point. The insanity is over. Pack up and go home Russia.

No Russian

Didn't ISIS already say they did it?

Civilians should never be targeted, but Ukraine is probably losing the same amount of people everyday, and none of those people wanted to be at war.

Terror regimes like Russia tend to breed and encourage terrorists.

Thuban

 anyone could have been responsible, including the government.

There is indeed a huge Building 7 contingent inside Russia that question who really was behind the terror attack.

Looks like ISIS is claiming responsibility.

Of course we’re not certain who was behind this attack, but I’m 100% certain it’s a result of Putin ensuring the security of Russia.

In October 2002, Chechen militants took about 800 people hostage at a Moscow theater. Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.

In this attack, the FSB were involved. Could it be the same again? I wouldn't put it past Putin.

In this attack, the FSB were involved. Could it be the same again? I wouldn't put it past Putin.

Putin has to be at the very top of the suspects list. He'll use this in his authoritarian speeches to come, and no one would put it past him.

This is a wilful atrocity, and appalling act of terrorism, a subsequent horrific loss of innocent life.

Those responsible must be held fully accountable.

The question is trust sincerity, the total absence of political interference in carrying out investigations, of deniability of state actors to proportion blame that a war in Ukraine, could provide a false perpetrator.

The authorities will announce who takes the blame and that will be repeatedly broadcast on national television shortly.

The authorities will announce who they have decided is a politically beneficial target to take the blame, and that will be repeatedly broadcast on national television shortly.

Putin is going to make a speech soon. I wonder if he will blame Ukraine...

Putin is going to make a speech soon. I wonder if he will blame Ukraine...

I will be amazed if he doesn't.

Blaming Ukraine is blaming himself though, as the war in Ukraine is a war for Putin's ego.

Thuban

The inside job guys will be deemed nutcases and a fringe minority.

Speak for yourself. Putin's done it before, several times, so it is quite plausible.

Russia is going to need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and decide if this war in Ukraine for Putin's ego is worth it.

People just going about their lives are dying in Moscow for his ego. Is it worth it?

Hideous that civilians were murdered. But the Kremlin has to be looked at for possible involvement, as does Putin himself, recall the 'apartment bombings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

Putin the ex-Stasi/KGB agent knows the power of scaremongering as do all despots and despot-wannabes, even dictators for just for one day. I hope for the sake of ordinary Russian citizens that the Russian state did not once again destroy the lives of hundreds of people who wanted to hear some rock music

On March 7th the US Embassy in Moscow issued a warning to any Americans remaining in Russia of the danger of attacks by what the embassy termed "extremists" on large public gatherings and specifically warned people to stay away from concerts. The Russian government reacted to the warning by accusing the US of "blackmail". This was two weeks ago. It seems US intelligence was correct. The Russians are trying to blame the attack on Ukraine but just last week the Russian FSB broke up an attempted attack on a Jewish house of worship by an Islamic State cell operating in Russia.

The inside job guys will be deemed nutcases and a fringe minority.

Speak for yourself. Putin's done it before, several times, so it is quite plausible.

This has all the hallmarks of IS. It is not unlike the January IS attack at a memorial to the IRGC commander killed by the US in Iraq.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/mar/22/moscow-concert-attack-crocus-city-hall-shooting-russia-live-updates

An atrocity like the attack on Manchester Arena in 2017. Ukraine wouldn't do this as it would end their Western support. It's difficult to see any benefit for any group from the deliberate slaughter of civilians. The Islamic State would do something like this, but you wouldn't expect them to be able to operate so openly in what is effectively a dictatorship.

Terrible tragic attacks like the Bataclan attack in 2015 in Paris.

If ISIS is responsible, I wonder why did they attack now, and what was the purpose? I know Putin has cracked down on other religions, but he is also friends with Erdogan the Turkish president, as well as supporting al_Asaad. Or they just decided to stir things up?

Breaking news...

The police announced that a suspicious van bearing Ukrainian plates was spotted outside the venue.

So this is what they've decided the story they will tell will be.

The attackers managed to escape in a white van.

Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a suspected terror attack.

Islamic terrorism has no boundaries, which is why it needs to be eliminated no matter the costs.

Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a suspected terror attack.

It could be them. But they're also known for taking credit for any terrorist attacks.

This has all the hallmarks of a Putin/FSB false-flag op - just like the many he has pulled before...

Typical obvious Kremlin "maskirovka"...

The Russian people won't fall for it and no one else will either...

Now it's sounding like ISIS-K, a branch of Afghanistan was involved.

MarkXToday  07:56 am JST

If ISIS is responsible, I wonder why did they attack now, and what was the purpose? I know Putin has cracked down on other religions, but he is also friends with Erdogan the Turkish president, as well as supporting al_Asaad. Or they just decided to stir things up?

What interesting information! "Taspoon rape" level. Dear, could you tell us how Putin is cracking down on other religions? Just curious

Putin is a friend with Ramzan Kadyrov, muslim.

Maybe you should think before you speak?

MarkXToday 07:56 am JST

If ISIS is responsible, I wonder why did they attack now, and what was the purpose? I know Putin has cracked down on other religions, but he is also friends with Erdogan the Turkish president, as well as supporting al_Asaad. Or they just decided to stir things up?

What interesting information! "Taspoon rape" level. Dear, could you tell us how Putin is cracking down on other religions? Just curious

Putin is a friend with Ramzan Kadyrov, muslim.

Maybe you should think before you speak?

IS is at war with Shiite Muslims whom they view as apostates. Russia provides military support to the Shiite government of Syria in their war against a mostly Sunni led rebellion. Russia has fought against IS intermittently throughout the Syrian Civil War. This is pay back for Russia's support of the Syrian government.

Eerily similar to October 7th.

are there any other versions? Smart guys. Everyone will be caught and neutralized. The satellites record everything so that everyone will be found. FSB.

Desert TortoiseToday  08:37 am JST

IS is at war with Shiite Muslims whom they view as apostates. Russia provides military support to the Shiite government of Syria in their war against a mostly Sunni led rebellion. Russia has fought against IS intermittently throughout the Syrian Civil War. This is pay back for Russia's support of the Syrian government.

Desert Tortoise, it is not the answer to my question. In Russia, none of the peaceful religions are persecuted. Following your statements, we can say that in RUSSIA only Shiites are supported, and all Sunnis are in prison. In Russia, terrorists are persecuted, not followers of peaceful religions. Putin, of course, is a clever man, but he understands terrorists better than individual branches of some religions. He doesn't care about their differences. It is important to him that they live peacefully within a multi-religious state. Even your Aum Senrike was only banned in 2016. Or maybe you think that he is wrong?

Thuban

The extent of cooperation between ISIS and the Azov Battalion and pro-Navalny extremists is currently being investigated.

No, it's not.

The assailants were armed with high end military gear indicating possible state sponsorship (although the country which funded and organized the attack has still refrained from publicly taking responsibility)

However it's quite likely that government authorities will soon be able to point the finger at the particular government that was behind this.

The extent of cooperation between the foreign government in question and pro-Navalny extremists inside Russia who are furious that Putin won the election, is not yet completely clear.

Or perhaps it really was IS?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-moscow-concert-hall-attack-1.7152498

After all an IS cell was broken up in the vicinity of Moscow on March 7th. They were planning an attack on a Synagog during worship.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-neutralized-isis-cell-plotting-attack-moscow-synagogue-2024-03-07/

The question is how did this happen in the first place. Putin was so invested in invading Ukraine and ruling over Russia as a kleptocratic dictator, while arresting protestors, killing political rivals, and more... He wasn't paying attention to a threat like this in his own country. This is what happens when you don't pay attention to the right things while being too focused on doing the wrong things. If he didn't start this issue with Ukraine in the first place, he would have caught this before it happened.

Desert Tortoise, it is not the answer to my question. In Russia, none of the peaceful religions are persecuted. Following your statements, we can say that in RUSSIA only Shiites are supported, and all Sunnis are in prison. In Russia, terrorists are persecuted, not followers of peaceful religions. Putin, of course, is a clever man, but he understands terrorists better than individual branches of some religions. He doesn't care about their differences. It is important to him that they live peacefully within a multi-religious state. Even your Aum Senrike was only banned in 2016. Or maybe you think that he is wrong?

A lot of Muslim groups hate the Russians. The IS cell that was recently broken up outside Moscow was composed of Afghan members of ISIK, the Afghan branch of IS. Russian forces have fought IS in Syria and earned their enmity. They will seek revenge and the January 2024 attack in Iran is a demonstration of their reach. You have Chechens who hate the Russians ( and who hate the Russia poodle Ramzan Kadyrov) who went to Syria specifically to fight the Russians, some of whom have subsequently travelled to Ukraine and joined the Ukraine army fighting the Russians.

It's important not to jump to rash conclusions, although nothing should be ruled out.

Don't worry, Putin will soon issue a decree for his loyal Vatniks. None of it will be his fault. It will please you.

Do not question his eventual decision.

In October 2002, Chechen militants took about 800 people hostage at a Moscow theater. Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.

In this attack, the FSB were involved. Could it be the same again? I wouldn't put it past Putin.

This was my thinking as well. I would think that regardless of who did it, Putin would blame Ukraine, and he yet may do just that.

A lot of Muslim groups hate the Russians. The IS cell that was recently broken up outside Moscow was composed of Afghan members of ISIK, the Afghan branch of IS. Russian forces have fought IS in Syria and earned their enmity. They will seek revenge and the January 2024 attack in Iran is a demonstration of their reach. You have Chechens who hate the Russians ( and who hate the Russia poodle Ramzan Kadyrov) who went to Syria specifically to fight the Russians, some of whom have subsequently travelled to Ukraine and joined the Ukraine army fighting the Russians.

You yourself personally hate Russians, and that’s what’s wrong with you. My neighbor, a Russian, hates my other neighbor, also a Russian. Let's say: Russians hate Russians. And my friend is Kazakh. What should we do? According to your conclusions, we should hate each other. What about the Americans and other British? You (thank God, not all) also hate Russians. What does religion have to do with it? You are talking nonsense! He made conclusions, you see...

@Desert Tort:  It seems US intelligence was correct.

I agree, but don't expect the Russiaphiles, some from theUS and elsewhere to believe what comes from the US, for whatever reason these anti-democracy extremists have long believed what comes from the Kremlin, its proxy media and theirFlorida based cult/cartel leader, himself a supporter of Russia and its brand of government.

This was my thinking as well. I would think that regardless of who did it, Putin would blame Ukraine, and he yet may do just that.

Iran tried to blame the January attack on Israel but IS social media pretty much discredited that claim. I suspect IS will get their propaganda out there and undercut any claims Russia might make that Ukraine was behind the attack. Russia might still make the claim but it won't go anywhere.

The fact remains that IS has been fighting Russian Army for over ten years in Syria. That is indisputable. Russia supports IS mortal enemy Bashar al-Assad with arms and fighters. So IS seeks revenge by attacking Russians inside Russia. IS isn't Russian. They are Syrians, Iraqis, Afghans, Turks and some other ethnic groups.

The problem with a dictatorship is that due to having destroyed any trust and credibility achieved through a free and open media, no one can trust them as having any credibility with any details they provide. So none of us will ever know what really happened, or who did this.

The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation reports that there are already 60 dead... And the number of dead may increase

What’s the use of living under the thumb of a dictator with Nepolean issues if the drawl can’t even keep one safe?

I thought the midget from Moscow was supposed to be all powerful and all knowing?

The US embassy knew and shared this threat 2 weeks ago.

Whats Lilliputin’s excuse?

Global chaos continues, Putin has EXCELLENT relations with Muslims, nearly 10% of Russia Muslim. recruiting in BRICS lots of Muslim countries, Saudi, Iran, Egypt, UAE etc. within last year, many more set to join and de-dollarize.

Perpetrators, rarely media spin narrative, easily could be pay for hire scheme, lots of militants making lots of cash these days across world. Let's see how it plays out, somebody will be caught, they'll talk I can assure you.

Seems like Russia might want to “redeploy” its troops back home to defend its own territory.

And where’s the “big” guy? He’s mute and off the air. The Kremlin trying to find a booster chair for his news conference?

 Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.

My memory tells me a more nuanced tale: most of the Chechens ended up with a Russian bullet in the head as they slumped unconscious after first being gassed. And the Chechens do remember what the Russians did to Grozny, almost a blueprint for Gaza. Revenge, as we all know, is best served cold, a lesson that is never learned by heads of state since it's always the innocent who pay the price in blood for the crimes of their governments. This attack, a long time coming, will have wiped the smirk off Putin's fake-election euphoria.

Nope, pure Govt based media gaslighting on Chechens, their busy fighting Putin in Ukraine, making lots of cash. Their closely aligned now in reality.

Attack, likely paid terrorism, funded by Putin's globalist enemies funding Ukraine proxy war, and they'll talk once their caught. Seems we're still edging closer to WW III.

How did five or six gunmen get into the concert hall?

My memory tells me a more nuanced tale: most of the Chechens ended up with a Russian bullet in the head as they slumped unconscious after first being gassed.

My memory tells me how well-bred Europeans brought Africans and kept them in zoos in

cages like animals for the amusement of European children.

He has pity on those Chechens! Poor, unfortunate criminals. Let's cry for them!

Grozny now is a prosperious city inhabited by Chechens.

Thuban, sometimes it seems that terrorists will win....

Like everybody else, they walked in, only they were armed, any other fantastic questions?

Russia is giving infinite money and weapons to Iran. Seems like they are now realizing the implications of taking sides in the ME.

HopeSpringsEternal

Like everybody else, they walked in, only they were armed, any other fantastic questions?

Russia is at war but takes no extra precautions at large public gatherings. Likely, there will be more attacks.

When a regime oppresses so many people, minorities, religions. and nations, these things happen. Right or wrong.

Fascist Russia has countless internal enemies. It is an incredibly dangerous and violent place - and make no mistake, things will get far worse.

Isis name maybe islamic but it indeed works for Israel and US. It attacked to iran and now russia. One has to be brain dead to believe that this attack and attack on Iran was carried out by a so called “islamic group”.

Ukraine's unconstrained, why Scholz of Germany will not provide Taurus missiles. Seems they've given up on the battlefield, thus busy attacking soft targets as terrorists, putting serious price pressure on oil and gas.

Biden's getting nervous, when your Ukraine proxy partner becomes known state sponsor of terrorism that's driving up cost of gasoline in US and more inflation!

Fighting too many battles on too many fronts

Terrorist attacks also act to raise global interest rates, as investors don't like the uncertainty of traditional warfare becoming terrorism in nature. Markets and Corps don't like it either, as escalation and inflation the natural result.

So, not just voters unhappy with Biden's global destabilization and chaos, whole world set to suffer more now as escalation takes place. Russia's been very tolerant to date of civilian attacks, but not this time.

Russia has been doing this literally for years in Ukraine and would have continued to do so and worst if Ukraine had not fought back.

JohnToday 10:09 am JST

Isis name maybe islamic but it indeed works for Israel and US. It attacked to iran and now russia. One has to be brain dead to believe that this attack and attack on Iran was carried out by a so called “islamic group”.

If you think we control ISIS via the Sunni states, why do they kill Americans and British? Why isn't cheap Saudi crude flowing to the West?

The blood of these civilians is on Putin and the Kremlin's hands, for creating such hatred towards them by their own citizens. They should be ashamed.

Straight to victim blaming, unbelievable. More innocent lives lost at a concert and the fangs are out with the first smell of chaos and blood, even before the smoke settles.

Isis name maybe islamic but it indeed works for Israel and US. It attacked to iran and now russia. One has to be brain dead to believe that this attack and attack on Iran was carried out by a so called “islamic group”.

Honestly guys, rethink your lives. IS has claimed responsibility. Hold your horses for a bit.

The conspiratorial mind knows no boundaries. Recommend staying off the gear for a while there boys. Not a great look.

HopeSpringsEternalToday 10:26 am JST

Still Putin's War

It's 9/11 all over again...you're either with Putin, or with the terrorists.

Theres a 3rd option: Let the Russians reap what they’ve sowed.

Putin was warned. He publicly discounted US warnings as disinformation. Dios Miso, Vlad.

Straight to victim blaming, unbelievable. More innocent lives lost at a concert and the fangs are out with the first smell of chaos and blood, even before the smoke settles.

@Ricky - Maybe you should review the meaning of "victim blaming."

The blood of these civilians is on Putin and the Kremlin's hands, for creating such hatred towards them by their own citizens. They should be ashamed.

Putin was not a victim of the attack. He was not at the concert hall. In fact, he probably went directly to one of his bunkers once he found out.

Where is the victim blaming again?

Real question's how will Putin escalate? He'll determine its State backed terrorism it seems very likely. Will he then start deploying tactical EMP weapons? Many have been waiting for him to do so, this may the trigger.

Real question's how will Putin escalate? He'll determine its State backed terrorism it seems very likely. Will he then start deploying tactical EMP weapons

He’s already been warned of the resulting kinetic response.

So, unlikely but with a “strategic genius” like this who knows.

He’d better be focused on the reaction of the folks back home. One could imagine they aren’t happy with a dictator that forces them to live under his tiny thumb and yet he can’t even keep them safe.

Warned by the U.S. embassy 2 weeks ago.

Putin didn’t just ignore it, he called it a disinformation campaign.

Oops.

Where is the victim blaming again?

The Russians! As they try and get their heads around what has happened, morn and bury their dead man. Have some class.

HopeSpringsEternalToday 10:36 am JST

Real question's how will Putin escalate? He'll determine its State backed terrorism it seems very likely. Will he then start deploying tactical EMP weapons? Many have been waiting for him to do so, this may the trigger.

Well Russia does have a history of attacking the wrong country, so yeah, they could lash out at anybody.

Russia was too busy arresting grandmas with blue and yellow window curtains to do basic security. Was well documented by the BBC.

If Russia wasn't committing it own terrorism abroad, they could have had sympathy and intelligence cooperation on this matter.

Poor people of Ukraine want change as well or they'll leave like they're busy doing, as they do not want a forever with Russia due to US NATO aggressive expansion agenda. They long for neutrality, not war.

This terror act will only make their lives far worse, the escalation of this conflict. Nobody in Ukraine can feel safe with their current leadership busy pursuing terrorism against Russia civilians.

Poor people of Ukraine want change as well or they'll leave like they're busy doing, as they do not want a forever WAR with Russia due to US NATO aggressive expansion agenda. They long for neutrality, not war.

This terror act will only make their lives far worse, the escalation of this conflict. Nobody in Ukraine can feel safe with their current leadership busy pursuing terrorism against Russia civilians.

Boy, it’s a good thing that Vlad offed Nevalny and arrested all those peaceful protesters at his memorial or the public might be in danger, eh?

Oh, wait….

Poor people of Ukraine want change

Indeed they do! They want Russian murderers out of their country.

HopeSpringsEternal

Poor people of Ukraine want change as well or they'll leave like they're busy doing, as they do not want a forever WAR with Russia

Tell that to Putin.

due to US NATO aggressive expansion agenda.

The US and NATO have nothing to do with Putin's imperialist war.

They long for neutrality, not war.

They will now never be neutral. They will be Europe leaning.

HopeSpringsEternalRussianTr0ll

Nobody in Ukraine can feel safe with their current leadership busy pursuing terrorism against Russia civilians.

This terrorism has nothing to do with Ukraine.

Americans rightly fear similar terror due their open borders and known terrorists pouring into the country.

Whether Oct 7th, this attack or future attacks that are certain to take place due to the nature of the growing destabilized world we now live, citizens everywhere want change and a different path.

It's the primary reason those currently in office are so UNPOPULAR in poll after poll, that vast majorities think their countries are on a WRONG Track. Voters are scared of terrorism and escalation of War, especially WW III.

HopeSpringsEternal

Americans rightly fear similar terror due their open borders and known terrorists pouring into the country.

Terrorists aren't storming into the US, they are already there. Remember Jan 6th?

FBI Director Wray stated this week, that the risk of US domestic terrorism, highest he's ever seen in his entire career at the FBI. And yet the media hardly covers his testimony, and the US borders remain open by choice.

Oct 7th and this attack are clear warning signs, the politicians need to take terrorism far more seriously, as the US a far softer target than Russia after all.

Americans rightly fear similar terror due their open borders and known terrorists pouring into the country. 

The biggest threat to national security on the terror front is from Right-wing domestic terrorists as we saw on January 6th.

So says the FBI.

Yet another rhetorical Wiff by Cope.

Attacks on civilians are to be condemned. Cowardly tactics used by terrorists worldwide.

But this is certainly indicative of how many groups within Russia have a hatred of the fascist government. Many ethnic groups and many regions have been oppressed and killed by the Russian government over decades. This attack is not a one-off.

Ah yes. The obligatory check-the-box kinda-sorta condemnation of the slaughter of innocents -- followed immediately by the ‘but‘ with the justifying and excusing and borderline victim-blaming.

Should have stopped at the end of the first paragraph, my friend.

The chorus of voices among the Russian public demanding a clampdown againts anti-Putin extremists and insurgents will only get louder.

Actually the only think that’s for certain is that Russians wonder how an all-powerful strongman has failed to protect them when he was warned weeks in advance.

And this was 12 hours ago. Where’s Mini-me?

He’s gone radio silent. Just what a nervous population needs in times of crisis, eh?

FBI Director Wray stated this week, that the risk of US domestic terrorism, highest he's ever seen in his entire career at the FBI

From domestic extremism. You left that part out.

I’m sure that was just an oversight, right?

Voters are scared of terrorism and escalation of War, especially WW III.

Not this voter, nor anyone I know. Please don’t try and project your non-American fears onto Americans. We are the land of the free and the home of the brave.

I thought ISIS was a US/ Israeli construct...

The fact that this happened on the heels of Putin winning an election and Zelensky facing massive failures on the front will not go unnoticed by the Russian people as they get updates from TV news.

Bingo, Russian's are on the move and taking out Ukraine's most prized Patriot batteries being forced close to the front to try and halt Russia Air superiority.

Seems likely Kiev's desperation to resort to State sponsored terror due to ongoing battlefield carnage, many camera images will show these were not Chechens.

Whoever gets assigned the blame on TV, there will be a massive "let's go get em" sentiment among ordinary Russians.

Not so different from Americans, it sounds like. Just make sure you get the right guys. And good luck on this, I mean it sincerely.

ISIS was wiped out until a certain elderly man with poor memory took over.

Much like a certain fat blob with a ridiculous comb-over, terrorism is a cancer that moves at metastasizes if not completely wiped out.

In an unrelated matter (cough cough), the same fat blob pulled US troops from Syria where they were still fighting ISIS.

US and NATO proxy backers of Ukraine will certainly have to speed up their deconfliction and portioning peace plans, state sponsored terror a bridge too far.

Voters everywhere alarmed at this terror escalation, the likelihood for an even greater bloodbath in Ukraine etc. and worst of all, WW III prospects increasing.

US and NATO proxy backers of Ukraine will certainly have to speed up their deconfliction and portioning peace plans, state sponsored terror a bridge too far.

Voters everywhere alarmed at this terror escalation, the likelihood for an even greater bloodbath in Ukraine etc. and worst of all, WW III prospects increasing.

Security camera shows one of the attackers nit shooting but walking behind,just collecting empty magazines. Why would ISIS be concerned about collecting empty magazines?

FSB agents who don’t want to leave evidence behind?

I don’t know who did this but I know who did NOT — ISIS

also obviously USA “domestic extremism” had nothing to do with it.

And despite everything Russia has done and continues to do, the United States STILL warned them in advance that ISIS was planning to attack a large public gathering like a concert. And what did Putin do? He called the warnings a "provocation" and "blackmail". That was Tuesday. And less than a week later, exactly what America said would happen, happened.

Russia will eventually fall apart. The only question is how many of its own people will be dead before that happens.

BlacklabelToday  11:34 am JST

I don’t know who did this but I know who did NOT — ISIS

So the FSB?

Like a broken watch, you may have lucked into the right answer.

But ISIS isn’t really in the business of claiming credit for things they’ve nothing to do with.

Why would ISIS be concerned about collecting empty magazines?

CIA does that.

or traceable ammunition that was originally given to Ukraine.

But this is certainly indicative of how many groups within Russia have a hatred of the fascist government. 

The left aligning itself with ISIS now.

Why would ISIS be concerned about collecting empty magazines?

CIA does that.

So does the FSB.

You can’t say they didn’t learn from getting caught in the act of blowing up apartment buildings in the early 2000s

or traceable ammunition that was originally given to Ukraine.

Because they couldn’t test run forensic analysis from all the rounds in bodies, eh?

Slow clap….

Some or all of these killers will be caught, and origins of this terrorism uncovered. Until then we'll just have to stay tuned. Meanwhile, people across entire world, rightly concerned about increasing global destabilization.

Then why were they supposedly picking up their spent rounds/magazines?

But ISIS isn’t really in the business of claiming credit for things they’ve nothing to do with.

thats the most disingenuous or uninformed statement I have seen this whole year.

they are literally in the business of claiming credit for things they didn’t do.

To keep relevant after they were wiped out.

Then why were they supposedly picking up their spent rounds/magazines?

Because they were FSB? It’s unconfirmed but easily as plausible as any of the bunk postulated so far.

Certainly more plausible than a UA attack which, if confirmed, would be an excuse for a massive escalation by Russia.

"Thou doth protest too much", that's very applicable to this event and the attempt to spin in the media. Why not just let the experts on the ground gather the evidence and secure the killers. That why there's no conspiracy!

But ISIS isn’t really in the business of claiming credit for things they’ve nothing to do with.

thats the most disingenuous or uninformed statement I have seen this whole year.

And yet you’re wrong. As evil as ISIS is, they generally claim credit for things they did.

Why not just let the experts on the ground gather the evidence and secure the killers. 

Oh, is THAT why you’re spamming the thread with unsubstantiated bunk? Be a you just want to let the events play out?

Certainly more plausible than a UA attack which, if confirmed, would be an excuse for a massive escalation by Russia.

which is why all the media and posters here are immediately and desperately already saying no way Ukraine could have been involved.

Zelensky doesn’t “do” terrorism, TV guy just exclaimed!

no way, based on what?

We don’t know what happened yet, do we?

In the “What’s more likely” category where “Ukrainian terrorism that would turn world opinion against them and escalate the war” is one option and “almost anything else” is the other option, rational thinking people would choose the latter.

But Putie fans are not known for being big thinkers.

Blacklabel

Why would ISIS be concerned about collecting empty magazines?

CIA does that.

or traceable ammunition that was originally given to Ukraine.

Ludicrous.

Why is it always a conspiracy story? The United States shared information about a potential terrorist attack in Moscow with Russia’s government earlier this month. Do you think they would do that is it was Ukraine?

It was ISIS.

It is an interesting fact that 10% of Russians are Muslims. Maybe ISIS wants to change that.

BlacklabelToday 11:50 am JST

To keep relevant after they were wiped out.

A true patriot would acknowledge that Bankrupt Don didn't eliminate ISIS. They also wouldn't mindlessly blame the CIA working on the patriot's behalf.

Ramsey's KitchenToday 12:16 pm JST

Russia is going to need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and decide if this war in Ukraine for Putin's ego is worth it.

People just going about their lives are dying in Moscow for his ego. Is it worth it?

So now you are saying this is not about Christians vs Muslims terror attack but about Russia/ Ukraine?

Narrative change bruh?

You can't deny that by choosing to engage in savagery with a neighbor Russia has taken its eye off of other problems.

Ramsey's KitchenToday 11:40 am JST

The NAFO Russia haters trying to put blame on Russian government for this attack are certainly super active this morning. Gotta create that fake narrative real quick ey, team?

Remember, you are pretending to be neutral and have no problem with blame being assigned to Russia for something.

Ramsey's KitchenToday  12:22 pm JST

This has all the hallmarks of a Putin/FSB false-flag op - just like the many he has pulled before...

Typical obvious Kremlin "maskirovka"...

The Russian people won't fall for it and no one else will either...

Your posts have all the hallmarks of D.C./ Pentagon/ Langley misinformation campaign. Typical obvious Washington version of "maskirovka". People with IQ above room temperature want fall for it either.

There , fixed for you at no charge bruh :)

Moscow apartment tenants caught 2 men planting a bomb in the basement of an apartment building during the bombing campaign of the early 2000s. This is confirmed.

The bomb was not a dummy. This is confirmed.

Moscow police arrested the 2 men later confirmed to be FSB. This is confirmed.

Later the government said it was just a training exercise (even though training rules dictate notification of local authorities) and the whole thing disappeared. This is confirmed.

Very shortly later, Putin launched the second Chechen war.

Other than that?

ThubanToday 12:23 pm JST

If the weapons used in the attack against concert goers can be traced back to huge cache of weapons supplied to Kiev, there will be global consequences.

What ya gonna do? Drop a tactical nuke? Putin knows his game would be ended pretty quickly if he did that.

Before jumping to conclusions though, we should wait for Russian government authorities to complete their investigation and issue their report to the international community.

Nothing can be believed from such corrupt authorities.

The UN has condemned this as an act of terror.

I'm sure even Iran got a condemnation when ISIS attacked them. Pretty easy achievement.

JJE

There are many militant groups in the UAF (such as Azov, Kraken, Tornado to name a few) that would happily collaborate with IS, if not outright ally with them.

No, they wouldn't.

Why make up silly conspiracy theories just to suit your narrative?

The big bear isn’t so invincible after all

One group that has come under scrutiny - a bulletin from the authorities was released - is the Ukraine-based 'Russian Volunteer Corps'. It describes above average height Slavic men with fake beards and moustaches.

There are a few photos of the alleged offenders, in their vehicle, circulating and this may well be the case.

I'd be very cautious of the western media, who have already settled on a narrative over truth, and are just parroting Kirby.