How China allegedly contributes to the deadly fentanyl crisis

Oh now just because Trump said it, a previously accepted fact is reverted back to “allegedly”?

I do agree that China and other countries where drug-related substances come from bear a responsibility to crack down on gangs who produce and distribute drugs. However, I don't think a trade war is the way to go. If anything, it will make a country like China not want to cooperate. Also, there should be more done to properly educate teens, children, and the public in general about the facts of this substance and all drugs, as well as the effect it can have on your body. If there is no demand, there will be no business. Even if you have to explicitly and graphically show what happens to you when you do drugs, then so be it.

Was it an "previously accepted fact"? Prove it.

Was it an "previously accepted fact"? Prove it.

Joe Biden sanctioned China for it.

and none of you criticized him for doing so or questioned it as “alleged”.

Oh now just because Trump said it, a previously accepted fact is reverted back to “allegedly”?

Bingo!

China wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't a willing market of pathetic junkies willing to use the stuff.

Maybe we should be educating people on the perils of drugs.

trump said Mexico will pay for the wall, the price of egg will go down, the russia war will end on day one etc, etc, etc... no wonder nobody can trust him.

Blah blah blah.

More like "nah, nah, nah"...in terms if him keeping his promises to you...and all the other MAGA little guys...

what’s that have to do with fentanyl coming from China?

Because as you've admitted, you can't trust anything that comes out of Trump's mouth...like the COVID vaccine is "safe and it works" - you and Bass have already said multiple times that was a bold-faced lie...

Fentanyl is the most dangerous drug on the streets. Over 96,700 people die from drug overdoses in a year. Opioids are a factor in 7 out of every 10 overdose deaths. Drug overdoses have killed almost a million people since 1999. The U.S. has the highest rate of overdose deaths in the world, followed by Puerto Rico.

China is responsible but fentanyl is also produced in India.

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf

Without demand there is no need for supply in this case. Americans need to stop blaming other countries for the constant drug epidemics and look at the real problems: Lax laws that tolerate legal and illegal drug abuse and a population that thinks using recreational drugs is cool. Also, the medical industry makes tons with their legal drugs and prescriptions are readily available to almost anyone. If it isn't LSD, it's angel dust or heroin or cocaine or crack or ecstasy or fentanyl. It never ends in the U.S. The next new drug(s) of choice is just around the corner. One of the things I do like about Japan, and places like Singapore and Malaysia is they do not tolerate casual drug use and the penalty is high, as it ought to be. There's a lesson there for America but no one is paying attention.

China wouldn't be doing it

oh so it’s not “alleged”, they are doing it.

I see.

oh so it’s not “alleged”, they are doing it.

Oh yeah, I heard some guy on Twitter who said that Musk is personally overseeing it, cutting it with ketamine, and giving it away free with every Tesla sold.

And nobody ever lies on Twitter, according to the right.

China is not producing fentanyl. Gangs in China are producing it. The Chinese government needs to crack down on it with severe punishments for those involved.

China is not producing fentanyl. Gangs in China are producing it. 

gangs of Chinese citizens, in China?

States with highest per-capita drug overdose death rates;

West Virginia - RED

District Of Columbia - Blue

Tennessee - RED

Delaware - Blue

Louisiana - RED

And the winner of the No. 1 spot and overall winner (loser?) 3-2 is Team Red...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm

There's a lesson there for America but no one is paying attention.

so who is in support of Trump’s plan to execute drug dealers (not pardon them like Joe did)?

There are 257 drug deaths every day in America. The greatest country in world?

Plenty of people are choosing drugs as opposed life in America. Life must be pretty dam bad!

“Allegedly.”

For the past three decades since Clinton granted China “most-favored nation” trading status and shepherded China into the WTO, China has engaged in essentially the same pattern of industrial espionage and societal subversion that the British East India Company inflicted on China in the 19th century. Yesterday’s opium is today’s fentanyl. For China, this is revenge for the century of humiliation.

China has gotten away with this partly because the U.S. government has allowed unlimited shipment of de minimus packages to the U.S., to the tune of nearly a billion packages a year, most from China, Canada, and Mexico, with zero customs declaration requirements.

This is the really significant part of Trump’s move. Every package from China, Canada, and Mexico will now be subject to customs inspection. The open door for fentanyl is closing.

I wish Trump all the luck in the world. But, I don't think America's politics appreciate the fact all the precursors are totally legal and employed in many industries. Fentanyl is a simple synthetic that can be made and distributed anywhere, not like cocain that requires agriculture + refining + distribution.

Even if successful at reducing deaths, manufacturing, health, law enforcements, customs and border protection are all affected.

Until there's bipartisan support or will to severely punish uncooperative nations, it's an uphill battle.

If China is producing the drug, why are their imports being tariffed only 10% while many things from Canada and Mexico are at 25%? Why not make things more difficult for the producer in numerous other ways than tariffs and which do not involve souring relations with our neighbors?

BlacklabelToday 03:53 pm JST

There's a lesson there for America but no one is paying attention.

so who is in support of Trump’s plan to execute drug dealers (not pardon them like Joe did

I definitely support tougher penalties, including the death penalty, for the more heinous violations and not just on drug dealers from outside the country. The ones inside and the users need punishing too. More stringent measures are needed all the way around.

so who is in support of Trump’s plan to execute drug dealers (not pardon them like Joe did)?

You mean like Ross Ulbricht? Oh wait, Trump pardoned him....

That is a very colorful argument. To make your argument work I must ask, where are the Chinese warships. Certainly they are plying the waters of San Diego and Tijuana.

societal subversion that the British East India Company inflicted on China in the 19th century. Yesterday’s opium is today’s fentanyl. For China, this is revenge for the century of humiliation

so who is in support of Trump’s plan to execute drug dealers (not pardon them like Joe did)?

That is quite short sighted and the US should make government health insurance for all and regulate it like they do in the rest of the world. It is the fault of the Trump party for not expanding government healthcare in red states

US has highest rate of drug overdoses, study says

The United States has more than double the rate of premature overdose deaths of at least 12 other countries, according to a new study.

(NIH website)

Japan has full government healthcare (they don't execute drug dealers here and drug dealers get less prison time compared to US based drug dealers) and Japan does not have such a problem.

The is proof that Trump care is bad and ObamaCare is good.

so who is in support of Trump’s plan to execute drug dealers (not pardon them like Joe did)?

Japan isn't and they don't have such a problem. It would be bad policy. I am in 100% support of regulated government healthcare like Japan.

America has had a drug problem way before fentanyl or Chinese production.

Just smoke and mirrors while Trump and the maga gang asset strip the country

China won't do anything unless they get slapped with a 100% tariff. Why should they, they only stand to gain from the US fentanyl crisis. They are already carrying out an All-Fronts War.

In my mind and logic their is three priority areas to focus on.

1) The political weaponization of fentanyl trafficking, distribution, especially the deterioration of US China diplomacy.

The Fentanyl Crisis and Blockchain Analytics: Actions from the FEND Off Fentanyl Act

https://www.elliptic.co/blog/the-fentanyl-crisis-and-blockchain-analytics-actions-from-the-fend-off-fentanyl-act

2) The use of cryptocurrency, blockchain

Beyond Fentanyl - Cryptocurrency’s role in the international drug precursor market    

https://www.trmlabs.com/beyond-fentanyl-cryptocurrencys-role-in-the-international-synthetic-drug-precursor-market   

3) The complex structure of how the proceeds of fentanyl billions, I suggest trillion, are laundered. Use of the dark web, online gambling, high street retail, hospitality industry, “takeaways”    

I frankly don’t believe for a moment “Tariffs” will make an iota of difference.

I remember vividly my “early years” in financial institutions, cocaine was, still is king, I could run my hand across the “marble” elite trader’s bathroom furniture, the powder pantry.

The terrifying difference where fentanyl is concerned, when its takes hold its fatal.

I have studies markets most of my 22 years within the financial sector, the market for illicit drug performance enhancing stay up and play mentality will take a fundamental cultural change.

I can point the finger of blame on the government of China, I will if I get going.

However some, probably most blame is on the end user.

No market, no cry.