Israel and Iran strike at each other in new wave of attacks

"Are we the baddies?"- Israel

A government now clearly addicted to violence and killing.

Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities, missile storage and launch bases, nuclear scientists, and other legitimate military targets with precision attacks.

iran responded with indiscriminate missile attacks on Israeli cities. The face of terrorism unmasked.

@Garlic water

Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities, missile storage and launch bases, nuclear scientists, and other legitimate military targets with precision attacks.

From the article..

In Tehran, Iranian authorities said around 60 people, including 29 CHILDREN, were killed in an attack on a HOUSING CONPLEX

Will Israel be guessing the number of kids killed and maimed ?

Thats about all they have.

Unprovoked aggression by a nuclear armed state against a non-nuclear state.

Iranian sovereignty violated in a clear breach of the UN Charter.

Civilians in Tehran targeted and killed.

Where is the outrage from Europe and the "international community" and "rules-based order"

Waiting for Europe to seize Israel's assets and impose sanctions on Tel Aviv.

Waiting....

Garlic eater....how would you describe the carpet bombing of Gaza by Israel

"Precision carpet bombing "?

Where's the leader in time of crisis? With town people or somewhere else?

https://trt.global/world/article/26bf219546c4

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/netanyahus-official-aircraft-lands-in-athens/3597368

The BBC quotes Trump as saying the Israeli attacks on Iran are 'Excellent'.

Process that for a minute, think about it.

You have a completely unhinged, fully armed ultra nationalist Israeli regime, funded by the US tax payer and loudly and publicly backed by their equally unhinged President, attacking and striking several countries in their region, but now starting a full scale war with Iran and targeting nuclear facilities in the process.

Israel are not only internally genocidal, they are regionally minacious - the mad dog of the Middle East.

Try to spin it how you like, those are the facts.

My advice is to make your own conclusions based on reality, not based on the feed of an echo chamber of misinformation.

Just saw footage of missiles raining down on Haifa, other places too. Large secondaries on the ground.

There are definitely casualties in Israel from this ongoing self-defensive reply to the unprovoked aggression of US-ally Israel, which was a sneak attack during diplomatic negotiations.

Another barrage is expected shortly.

Waiting for sanctions from US/EU, assets seizures and for being banned from international sports. Don't hold your breath.

The state of Israel should have been given a 100 year probationary period, or treaty as seen with Hong Kong, to assess how this experiment in land acquisition and transfer would play out

Certainty would have failed the civilised state that can live peacefully criteria.

Garlic ...an echo chamber called Hasbara and delivered to your in box fresh each day.

LancetToday  06:20 am JST

Unprovoked aggression by a nuclear armed state against a non-nuclear state.

Iranian sovereignty violated in a clear breach of the UN Charter.

Civilians in Tehran targeted and killed.

Where is the outrage from Europe and the "international community" and "rules-based order"

Waiting for Europe to seize Israel's assets and impose sanctions on Tel Aviv.

Waiting....

Exactly. The silence is deafening, isn't it. Western Hypocrisy at it's worse.

By this measure, if the Arab states created a 'coalition of the willing' and bombed Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc into a similar state to Gaza over the next couple of years, it would only be fair and right for the rest of us just sat around twiddling our thumbs.

@GuruMick

Did you know Hamas are legitimately designated a terrorist organization.

Did you know they had been carrying out terrorist rocket attacks against Israeli cities for decades.

And Israel took it on the chin until finally Hamas shot Israeli’s attending dance parties and took hostages, some of whom were beheaded on social media feeds?

No, of course you didn’t.

That’s just too inconvenient for you so it gets deleted from your narrative.

Those who despise Israel,they generally do not care,who attack Israel as long as they are held accountable and the people of Israel,feel the same as the Palestinians,it look the IDF will be looking for office space,after a direct hit by Iran maybe they should rename their defense Iron Done

“Iran said 78 people were killed on the first day and scores more on the second, including 60 when a missile brought down a 14-storey apartment block in Tehran, where 29 of the dead were children.”

How strange that Israel continues to kill civilians in multiple countries whilst it continues to be ‘the victim’ Totally incomprehensible !

Trump has to feel pretty impotent right now. Israel just did a major end-run on his strategy and complicated the situation massively.

Meanwhile, has the first 24 hours of the end of the Ukraine war happened yet?

Garlic eater....I know too much about Israel, Hamas and the blockade of decades.

Saddens me.

What is "coming " for Israel is already here....War crime indictments, international pariah state, charge of ethnic cleansing , ghettoisation of Gaza, forced expulsion of people ......do you wish more opprobrium on Israel

They revel in it.

The world is now anti Israel....well done....what an achievement,!

Israel is a failed state by many measures.

Hows that "foreign investment, tourism, immigration " going ?

Down the toilet according to all economic figures.

The Middle East could have been a flourishing paradise with the tiny Israel being integrated in it.

There exists a solution that fulfills the rights of the two nations of the land – the Arabs and the Jews.

Actually, the Arabs and the Jews could have lived in peace, harmony and mutual prosperity already since the 1940s.

Both nations have roots in the land.

The Arab and Jews live in harmony until the established of Israel

Bibi starting another war to save his own skin at the cost of Israeli and Iranian Lives.

""Both nations have roots in the land.""

Agree. Jews have roots but NOT ZIONISTS, until Jews free themselves from the grip of these monsters and manage to preserve their faith Palestine will continue to suffer.

Garlic eaterToday  06:36 am JST

@GuruMick

Did you know Hamas are legitimately designated a terrorist organization.

Legitimately by only 35 countries of the 195 - all largely US allies.

Did you know they had been carrying out terrorist rocket attacks against Israeli cities for decades.

True, though the 'rockets' have generally been home made contraptions that may have killed an estimated 30-40 people since 1988. About the same number of starving Palestinians the Israeli's kill at controlled food distribution event at the moment.

And Israel took it on the chin until finally Hamas shot Israeli’s attending dance parties and took hostages, some of whom were beheaded on social media feeds?

If you think this is true, time to do some proper reading. Like real, objective, unbiased reading. Around 14,000 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in the same time period.

As Nazi Germany became synonymous with evil post WW2, Israel will be tagged with "the cowards country " following these ruthless and indiscriminate 6 mile high, computer targeted bombing raids.

Get down on the ground level and engage your enemy if you are so fearless.

@GuruMick

What do you think of the other enemies of Israel, say, ISIS? Or, Bashar al-Assad, former President of Syria? Do they conveniently get forgotten? If you want to pick sides, make sure you are on the right side.

The Palestinians have been there for 400 years. The Jews were moved back there about 100 years ago, and now they want it all. This is where we are. A ruthless extermination of a largely peaceful people. Hamas shouldn't have done the various things they did, but also the Jewish government have been pushing the to this purpose. They wanted a casus belli and they got it. They won't listen to anyone until the Palestinians are pushed out completely, children murdered, sick and old buried under rubble. If you defend this I have some questions about your morals. I've said it since day one, they got the excuse to flush out everyone and claim the land and they'll use it.

Palestinians have been in Palestine since Palestinian Man roam the earth Google Ancient Palestinian Man

War, inevitably will mean heavy innocent civilian casualties,

It is grossly disingenuous deceitful to attempt to sanitise a Iran Israeli conflict,

Brewing festering extremist religious hatred over decades, the brutality could be very ugly.

Globally world leaders, politician cannot even momentarily suggest they never saw this coming, unpreventable.

It’s almost like basing nations on religious ideology is a bad idea or something.

Garlic Eater

In my haste, I forgot to mention the 'annexation' (stealing, in another man's terms) of nearly 30,000 square kilometres of Palestinian territory by Israel since 1948, which was remiss of me.

Israel has taken control of 77.5% of historic Palestine since 1948.

Make sure you include that in your narrative, because those are simple, historically accurate facts.

The Zionist regime thinks it will easily defeat Iran, but that's not the case.

The Persian lion is not alone.

FIGHT IRAN !!..

79 killed in Gaza on Saturday. Doesn't even get a headline or a mention. So prolific are Israeli war crimes.

The Middle East could have been a flourishing paradise with the tiny Israel being integrated in it.

There exists a solution that fulfills the rights of the two nations of the land – the Arabs and the Jews.

Actually, the Arabs and the Jews could have lived in peace, harmony and mutual prosperity already since the 1940s.

Both nations have roots in the land

Your copy-paste trash comments are even more irrelevant than usual since Iranians aren't Arabs.

Let's hope cooler heads prevail soon, as the world does not want or need more uncontrolled nuclear enrichment threatening the existence of humanity and civilization.

It's not a big ask, Iran's clearly trying to follow the NK 'rogue' model, and nobody can figure out why

Israel made a huge mistake. This is the beginning of the end of the Zionist project. And its about time.

Let's hope cooler heads prevail soon, as the world does not want or need more uncontrolled nuclear enrichment threatening the existence of humanity and civilization.

It's not a big ask, Iran's clearly trying to follow the NK 'rogue' model, and nobody can figure out why

Following the North Korean rogue model? They were in negotiations with the U.S. and in talks with the IAEA when they were attacked by Israel.

Israel on the other hand has been amassing a stockpile of unchecked nuclear weapons for decades.

Israel pounded Iran for a second day on Saturday and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said its campaign would intensify, while Tehran called off nuclear talks that Washington had held out as the only way to halt the bombing.

Note nuclear talks are now "called off"....

What a huge loss for Trump...

He much boasted nuclear "deal" with Iran is now blown up...

All due to his BFF Bibi who evidently stiffed him and launched this attack while Rubio was scheduled to met with his Iran counterpart today...

America's enemies look at Trump and see someone so weak and impotent that even his best friend doesn't respect or fear him...

Israelis need other to.validate their existence,when.lots of people in the world could care less about their existence , because of their oppression of Palestinians,this is why the world could care less about what Iran dies to their country,this compound interest for their oppression

Garlic eater....how would you describe the carpet bombing of Gaza by Israel

I would describe it as non-existent because Israel isn’t carpet bombing Gaza lol

‘Garlic eater....how would you describe the carpet bombing of Gaza by Israel’

I would describe it as non-existent because Israel isn’t carpet bombing Gaza lol

lol?

92% of housing and 72% of all buildings destroyed in Gaza- what is it then?

J Bone....have you seen pics of Gaza ?

Destroyed as if by carpet bombing.

The bombs themselves may be less in number but the ordinance is 100 times plus.

The effect is the same as carpet bombing.

I wouldnt add "lol "as a way to seem clever when the opposite affect occurs.

Anyway....is that all youve got.

All agencies, countries and the UN describe Israels attacks as totally disproportionate.

And still Al Aqsa rises up and shoots the invaders

LOL !

An unbiased review of the behaviour of a certain group of people living in Germany pre-WWII would show that this is nothing new... Watch 'Europa - The Last Battle' to understand what is unfolding now...

J Bone....have you seen pics of Gaza ?

Destroyed as if by carpet bombing.

”As if” by carpet bombing isn’t carpet bombing. Feel free to post a link of evidence of ACTUAL carpet bombing unless you want to concede you were lying. I’ll wait

Mirriam-Webster Dictionary

Carpet bomb

1

: to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)

2

: to bombard repeatedly, widely, or excessively

concede you were lying. I’ll wait

Bibi's betrayal of Trump has led to another huge MAGA defection...

"President Donald Trump hit back at MAGA media star Tucker Carlson on the suggestion that Trump is abandoning “America First” principles by supporting Israel’s military strikes on Iran.

In an interview with writer Michael Scherer of The Atlantic published on his 79th birthday, Trump said that, he’s “the one that developed ‘America First,'” and therefore he is ‘the one that decides” what it means, not Carlson."

So another MAGA darling turns traitor and gets the Musk and Pence treatment...

More evidence that MAGA-world is self-imploding...

Option 1: a nuclear armed Iran

Option 2: a non nuclear armed Iran.

You got to be a complete Islamist cretin, of those who believe women have less rights than camels (the reality in many middle East countries), to support option 1.

Myself, I'll take option 2 and can live knowing there have been collateral damages any day. I feel really sad about the killed kids, but what kind of country and millenar "civilization" uses their own children as human shields for their nuclear weapons development program? A cowardly one.

Iran being decapitated would put a stop to a lot of the Islamic terrorism around the world. It wouldn't end it outright but it would be a step in the right direction.

92% of housing and 72% of all buildings destroyed in Gaza.

Maybe it’s not me who is illiterate or stupid- maybe you just opened your mouth without engaging your brain, assuming you have one- what part of the definition doesn’t fit?

The Palestinians have been there for 400 years. The Jews were moved back there about 100 years ago

Both nations have much deeper roots: The Jews have been there for 4,000 (four thosands) years. The Arabs came in the 7th century AD, as part of the Muslim/Arab conquest of the Middle East and North Africa.

Both nations are entitled to live there, and they could have lived with prosperity, cooperation and mutual enrivhment, unless the nationalistic narrow-mindedness.

More evidence MAGA-world is coming apart at the seams....Bannon warring with Fox News over this Israeli attack...

"Steve Bannon blamed Fox News and former President George W. Bush for dragging the U.S. into decades of Middle East conflicts and warned on Friday that the country is once again being pushed toward war, this time with Iran.

On his War Room podcast, Bannon said the US would not be in the position of defending personnel overseas amid strikes between Israel and Iran if “bald-faced lies” had not led to American invasions during the war on terror.

He pointed a finger at Bush-era neoconservatives and the media, singling out Fox News.

“We got American troops in Iraq? Why?” Bannon said. “Because Fox News and all of them and Bush lied to us. Lied! This was not a failure of intelligence… it was bald-faced lies.”

You have to admit, the vast majority of this anti-Israel rhetoric on social media comes from teenage girls whose greatest preoccupation is getting their makeup and hair right so they can spout trendy but provocative lies so they can get more “likes”.

Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities, missile storage and launch bases, nuclear scientists, and other legitimate military targets with precision attacks.

Ok, so why are a a bunch of kids and civilians dead then?

iran responded with indiscriminate missile attacks on Israeli cities.

Apparently Israel military has its air defences and military facilities in the middle of Tel Aviv and other cities.

The face of terrorism unmasked.

After reducing Gaza to apocalyptic rubble and wiping out 50 thousand civilians there not sure Netanyaho and his PR troops can use the " hey the other side is hitting civilian areas so they are terrorists unmasked" line very effectively.

92% of housing and 72% of all buildings destroyed in Gaza.

I would love to see a source on this. I know where you got your information so it’s funny that you conveniently left out that the actual statistic isn’t “destroyed” but “damaged or destroyed” and that any building with so much as a window blown out would be classified as damaged. But regardless it’s not uniformly bombed like the definition you presented then, is it? So would you like to keep embarrassing yourself or save yourself dignity and admit you were wrong?

“*We got American troops in Iraq? Why?” Bannon said. “Because Fox News and all of them and Bush lied to us. Lied! This was not a failure of intelligence… it was bald-faced lies.”*

He is not wrong. Also just seen I other breaking news apparently Bolton was hospitalized due to hyper excitment after reading about Israel bombing Iran.

You have to admit, the vast majority of this anti-Israel rhetoric on social media comes from teenage girls whose greatest preoccupation is getting their makeup and hair right so they can spout trendy but provocative lies so they can get more “likes”.

Really?

Sounds like the types who spam social media with multiple accounts and even praise their own posts.

Interesting profile.

Where ther 'Iranian barrages' struck yesterday.

The targets hit include Tel Nof airbase near Tel Aviv, Nevatim airbase in the Negev desert that houses F-35 warplanes, Dimona nuclear facility, Tel Aviv Nuclear Research Center, and the Kirya district in Tel Aviv, known as the "Israeli Pentagon."

Does that sound like Iran was targeting "nuclear facilities, missile storage and launch bases, nuclear scientists, and other legitimate military targets" or using "indiscriminate missile attacks on Israeli cities"?

Now it's the turn for all those Israeli "human shields" living willfully ignorant of the death and destruction brought by their terrorist leaders to their neighbors. A one-state solution for the two semitic peoples is the only way to stop the many decades of warmongering, bury the hatchets and learn to live together in peace as human beings.

The UN estimates that approximately 92 per cent of all residential buildings in Gaza – around 436,000 homes – have been damaged or destroyed since the start of the conflict.Apr 22, 2025

How is 92% not uniform- your personal epithets do not alter the fact that carpet bombing is exactly the applicable term.

There was a guy, born in what the government, population, and maps agreed was called what translates as Palestine.

He is acknowledged to have attacked Jewish religious leaders, inside Jewish religious sites, and was tried and convicted of what we now call terrorism.

And 99% of those reading this will recognize the name of this Palestinian terrorist.

Jesus of Nazareth.

How is 92% not uniform- your personal epithets do not alter the fact that carpet bombing is exactly the applicable term.

Because the statistic (that you misquoted) is damaged OR destroyed. If it was uniform it would be completely destroyed. Nice cope though and I love that you just ignored me calling you out for misquoting a statistic. It shows that you don’t actually believe what you’re saying

Tucker Carlson said it well, quote -

The real divide isn’t between people who support Israel and people who support Iran or the Palestinians. The real divide is between those who casually encourage violence, and those who seek to prevent it — between warmongers and peacemakers. Who are the warmongers? They would include anyone who’s calling Donald Trump today to demand air strikes and other direct US military involvement in a war with Iran.

Nuclear armed genocidal Israelis are a dangerous to humanity,we have a Evangelical delusional ambassador to Israel,who do.not recognize Palestian as a culture,even in their land of Palestine,Iran should use all mean necessary to liberate Palestinians from Isrealis bondage,start with destroying Ben Gurion airport,make Jews feel what it means to be isolated

I'm glad someone (Isreal) has the balls to stand up and fight against terrorist scum (Iran). Certainly the U.S. hasn't been doing much to bring an end to that horrible regime.

Did you know Hamas are legitimately designated a terrorist organization.

Did you know they had been carrying out terrorist rocket attacks against Israeli cities for decades.

And Israel took it on the chin until finally Hamas shot Israeli’s attending dance parties and took hostages, some of whom were beheaded on social media feeds?

No, of course you didn’t.

That’s just too inconvenient for you so it gets deleted from your narrative.

A full frontal display of western colonial arrogance. A people have their land and livelihoods taken from them by force for the sin of belonging to the wrong religion, their land colonized by people from other lands then those very same colonists and their western supporters act all surprised and indignant when the rightful land owners fight back.

Groups like Hamas and Hezbollah do not exist in a vacuum. Israel created these groups by their colonial lust for land. The original Arab population of Palestine has every right to fight back against the Israelis. If my land was taken by force from me under similar circumstances I would fight too, and I would be every bit as ruthless as Hamas. No quarter given. The Israelis have held the Palestinians in two giant open air prisons since 1967. That is 58 years. Imagine how Japan or Germany would have reacted had the US not only occupied their nations for 58 years after WWII but forced the native population off their land at gunpoint, forced to live in misery in concentration, er I mean refugee, camps while Americans took their land and their homes as their own. Think the Germans and Japanese would have just rolled over for that? Amazing the tripe that comes from supporters of Israeli colonialism.

JBone…,

Per the definition:

1.

to bombard repeatedly, widely, or excessively

Check

2.

to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)

… so as to cause… the intention to cause. You are arguing that the efficacy of the bombing somehow negates its intent- which at 98% is a bizarre hill to die on, but go ahead.

*92%

to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)

Yes, and we’ve agreed it isn’t uniform. Per Wikipedia: Carpet bombing, also known as saturation bombing, is a large area bombardment done in a progressive manner to inflict damage in every part of a selected area of land. The phrase evokes the image of explosions completely covering an area, in the same way that a carpet covers a floor.

key word: EVERY PART. A your own statistic shows that not every part of Gaza has been bombed. Therefore it isn’t carpet bombing

Are you going to admit that you misquoted your statistic or are you just hoping that continuing to ignore it will make me stop bringing it up?

The world is now anti Israel....well done....what an achievement,!

Israel is a failed state by many measures.

Nope.

… so as to cause… the intention to cause. You are arguing that the efficacy of the bombing somehow negates its intent- which at 98% is a bizarre hill to die on, but go ahead.

Show me where you got this statistic

I'm glad someone (Isreal) has the balls to stand up and fight against terrorist scum (Iran).

Exactly. Thankyou Israel!

Coward Bibi in his bunker hiding while Israeli's are hanging from burning buildings in Tel Aviv.

Both Israel and Iran are members of the United Nations and thus are bound by the UN Charter. Article 2 reads,

The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members ...

All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Myself, I'll take option 2

If it was uniform it would be completely destroyed.

to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over (a given area)

key word: EVERY PART. A your own statistic shows that not every part of Gaza has been bombed. Therefore it isn’t carpet bombing…

Because less than 1 in 10 buildings have not been affected? Ridiculous.

so as to cause… the intention to cause. You are arguing that the efficacy of the bombing somehow negates its intent.

I can't make this any simpler.

Do you understand, you are wrong- the intent is the key.

The official said Israel had "eliminated the highest commanders of their military leadership" and had killed nine nuclear scientists who were "main sources of knowledge, main forces driving forward the (nuclear) program.

Israel has been killing Iranian scientists, military commanders and some political leaders as well. It has been for quite a long time. It will not stop Iranian nuclear research and development. Killing some nuclear scientist like killing gold medal athletes. Even that finest athletes are still alive, they can not keep their best performance forever. Nuclear scientists will be eventually old and retire as well. Iran population is more than 92 millions. It will not hard to replace those lost talents.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been ashes before. Although buildings can be destroyed or some will be killed, the land will survive forever. New building of those cities are stronger than better than old generations. Same as nuclear scientists.

Although killing military commanders are nature of the war, killing well educated and highly trained civilian scientists are barbaric, lawless and wasting talents.

If Iran will develop nuclear energy for electrical power instead of military purpose, it is entirely their business. India and Pakistan have both nuclear arsenals. Both nations have fought large scale war for three times. Since both nations have developed nuclear arsenals, there have been no large scale wars.

If Iran has real WMD which Irag was wrongly accused, framed and ruined by Nathanyao(who is on vacation in Greece), it will be unlikely get the attack.

The real goal of Israel strike for Iran is changing new friendly regime. The problem of Israel has been friendly puppet have been transformed as foe.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Yeah Right Iran is not a threat to American,name one Iranian that killed an American in America

Because less than 1 in 10 buildings have not been affected? Ridiculous.

See, now you’re changing your argument. Now it’s just “affected”. Carpet bombing per the definition you posted UNIFORMLY affects the area.

so as to cause… the intention to cause. You are arguing that the efficacy of the bombing somehow negates its intent.

No, I’m arguing the definition that you posted lol. If you want to backtrack on your own definition then feel free to, I’ll let you walk it back (per your definition: to drop large numbers of bombs so as to cause uniform devastation over)

I can't make this any simpler.

Do you understand, you are wrong- the intent is the key.

So would the atomic bombing of Hiroshima qualify as “Capet bombing” then?

Iran got tons of plutonium from their nuclear reactor that can be used for nuclear bomb,why have Israel not attacked their breeder reactor, Google Iran Breeder Reactor

key word: EVERY PART. A your own statistic shows that not every part of Gaza has been bombed. Therefore it isn’t carpet bombing…

A couple of internationally recognized cases of carpet bombing. I would direct you to the percentage of buildings affected.

Würzburg (Germany):

The final report on the bombing of Würzburg indicated 82% of the city was destroyed, including 21,062 homes and 35 churches. 

Dresden (Germany):

Estimates suggest that 75-80% of Dresden's buildings were damaged or destroyed. 

Zadar (Croatia):

80% of Zadar's buildings were destroyed by Allied bombing during World War II. 

Guernica (Spain):

Three-quarters of the buildings in Guernica were reported completely destroyed. 

But these weren't cases of carpet bombing because the destruction wasn't actually 100%?

I guess this means gas prices are going to go up again.

Yeah Right Iran is not a threat to American,name one Iranian that killed an American in America

Iran has tried to kill Americans in America but failed fortunately. You might remember the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner mistakenly thinking it was an Iran Air Force aircraft attacking Vincennes while Vincennes was in the middle of a running gunfight with some Iranian patrol boats that had fired on a US Navy helicopter

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-03-12-mn-883-story.html

And there was this attempt by Iran to silence a critic of their government living in New York.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-men-convicted-iranian-plot-kill-us-based-critic-rcna197582

This whole thing is just going to get uglier.

JBone

I might be worth you remembering that Israel's inability to peacefully manage it's place in Palestine and the Middle East is currently costing you personally. A portion of what you currently earn as a member of the US armed forces, or whatever you do, is taken from you and given directly to Israel.

You are paying for that. You are gifting them your money, because they cannot manage their situation responsibly as a respectful and considerate country in the Middle East. They can't build relationships, only destroy them. They can't negotiate mutually respectful and beneficial agreements and abide by them, they do the opposite.

You are paying for that incompetence.

Now you may not be aware that the head of Israel's intelligence services quit because his warnings that Iran had thoroughly penetrated Israel's military, military suppliers, and his intelligence services.

And before Netanyahu started this war, Iran's intelligence services had essentially confirmed this by releasing enough information about Israel's nuclear weapons program to suggest it has the vital secret information about where all of Israel's enriched nuclear material is that means that it can continue to hit Israel's nuclear weapons program sites without accidentally causing a nuclear disaster.

Oh, and even Netanyahu has admitted that he isn't going to win anytime soon. Remember that whenever someone is claiming Israel's war on Iranians is going well.

Saying Israel has the right to self-defence but Iran doesn't is not logical.

Saying anything against Israel is not being antisemitic. Many Jews criticise Israle, Netanyahu, Ben Givr. Are these Jews antisemitic?

Israel has nuclear weapons. Israel is not waging war against Gaza, it is waging war against the whole of Palestine as well as many other countries in the Middle East. The direct attack on Iran is just Israel's latest move.

Sorry, Israel, I do not feel sorry for you. Your aggression has led to retaliation. There is no doubt about who the aggressor is.

Also, America is not helping. America is suporting, financing and encouraging Israel with its dangerous escapades.

Taking a selfie amidst the bombed out ruins of a modern city.

A picture says a thousand words.

Iran destroyed a whole Israelis suburbs,with rows of houses destroyed, Israel cannot exit Israel on by sea and foot

US enable Israel rogue behavior,if the US let Israel,have real consequences,it would bring down these Israelis crazies delusional beliefs, living in some religious fantasy world ,while the real world suffer

gaijintraveller

Sorry, Israel, I do not feel sorry for you. Your aggression has led to retaliation. There is no doubt about who the aggressor is.

A lot of people feel this way now, rightfully so.

Even back in October 2023, these boards were quite full of people commenting about Palestinians getting what they deserved for Hamas' attack and being very pro-Israel, with little to no understanding of why it had happened at all. At this point, most of that appears to have evaporated.

To those who have a better grasp of the big picture, Israel has actually been visiting misery and oppression on the Palestinians since 1948. They have been given a kind of 'Hall-Pass' on that because of their history, which itself has been bad, and people recognise and understand that. But the truth is, Israel has taken that hall pass and completely abused it. They have killed, stolen from and abjectly mistreated the Palestinians for 77 years, and in the last couple, simply conducted a genocide against them. Israel has turned into a monster.

I also have no sympathy for them whatsoever at this point, and Iran has every right to strike back at them.

Iran has been employing the Fattah-1 hypersonic missile platform to decent effect.

Haifa refinery hit hard - supplies some 60-70% of fuel in the country and pretty much all the military grade refined fuel.

Turns out IDF strikes in Iran hit many decoys.

Saying Israel has the right to self-defence but Iran doesn't is not logical.

Who is hell bent on annihilating the other? Who declares about its will and plan to annihilate a whole other nation - Women and man, elders, children, babies? Who lobes giant ballistic missiles at population centers?