California governor calls Trump National Guard deployment in LA unlawful

They better stay within their building or there will be hell to pay.

Threatening law enforcement and our military in support of violent foreign invaders waving Mexican flags in the streets?

that’s a bad look.

BlacklabelToday 06:33 am JST

Threatening law enforcement and our military in support of violent foreign invaders waving Mexican flags in the streets?

that’s a bad look.

Not not as bad as the military on the streets.

BlacklabelToday 06:33 am JST

violent foreign invaders

Yeah, the violent do tend to congregate at Home Depot.

Trump's heavy-handed escalation. Calling it an insurrection helps Trump politically, calling them a violent immigrant mob. The number of protesters is small, and the area is small. Watching live at the moment. Local Hispanic people.

Obstructing Federal agents is a crime, punishable by imprisonment, don’t like it, go to the ICE director, they are appointed by the President, don’t like that then go to the secretary of Homeland Security, and if that doesn’t work, go to the President or you can go to congress since they control their budget, don’t like that, vote out your congressman. Federal Courts: ICE must follow constitutional and federal court rulings.

Trump's heavy-handed escalation. Calling it an insurrection helps Trump politically, calling them a violent immigrant mob.

Yes, that’s what they are.

The number of protesters is small, and the area is small.

And?

Watching live at the moment. Local Hispanic people.

Not just Hispanic, Blacks, Whites all mixed.

The problem Trump has is that Newsom hasn't agreed to using California’s National Guard. This will likely spark law suits in the future.

Otherwise it is political theater that does nothing to solve any problems.

bass4funk

Not just Hispanic, Blacks, Whites all mixed.

Most are the local Hispanics as seen on TV.

Most are the local Hispanics as seen on TV.

Most, not all.

For those here who don't seem to believe in borders, try entering any other country illegally - Russia, Thailand, Mexico, Japan: and see what happens. You’ll be arrested, deported, or worse. So why is it somehow expected that illegals can just waltz into the United States, break federal law, and THEN protest enforcement like they’re the victims?

The U.S. has been beyond benevolent for decades - offering jobs, education, healthcare, and even citizenship paths to millions who entered ILLEGALY. But enough is enough. Sovereignty means absolute nothing if borders mean nothing. The National Guard being deployed is the consequence of patience running out - not "cruelty" or whatever nonsense the border-free Uber "Progressives" are spouting, but accountability.

JayToday  06:57 am JST

The National Guard being deployed is the consequence of patience running out 

Then MAGA better find a new source of patience or they are going to be facing entire new stains on their record.

Yeah, LA doesn’t need another riot, that last one, I went through was just horrible, our business sustained a lot of damage and thankfully Trump is working to crush this right in its tracks, the good people left in that state don’t need this, mobs cannot run the city and streets.

masugomiToday  06:59 am JST

No law against using the military inside the country against foreign nationals. 

This is great news!

Do you think the undocumented wear signs and have no rights?

People don’t just enter Mexico and stay illegally without consequences - Mexico deports tens of thousands of unauthorized migrants every year, with far less due process than the U.S. offers. JAPAN is an island nation, what? Do you think that changes the principle? They enforce their immigration laws strictly, with ZERO tolerance for illegal entry or overstay.

NO country stays stable by ignoring its borders.

bass4funkToday  07:04 am JST

Your business would not have been covered by Trump's legally deployable area.

The Battle of Los Angeles!

Federal vs Alien.

Your business would not have been covered by Trump's legally deployable area.

That’s ok, we moved it out of chaotic LA county and into Orange County where these things just don’t happen.

Trump pardoned insurrectionists who violently stormed the Capitol, attacking and injuring federal police.

But that was different... they were his insurrectionists.

bass4funk

Yeah, LA doesn’t need another riot, that last one, I went through was just horrible, our business sustained a lot of damage and thankfully Trump is working to crush this right in its tracks, the good people left in that state don’t need this, mobs cannot run the city and streets.

When was that?

The current protest is only in a minimal area.

The reason for the initial protests was that immigrants who were following the law, appearing in court for their regular hearings on their asylum status, as required by law, were snatched at the court house by ICE.

What are they to do? Not follow the law?

Trump pardoned insurrectionists who violently stormed the Capitol, attacking and injuring federal police.

Apples and Kiwi argument

But that was different... they were his insurrectionists.

Protesting your government and obstructing a Federal agent with a lawful executed order to detain and take someone in is a crime, protesting in itself is not.

When was that?

Huh?

The current protest is only in a minimal area

Doesn’t matter how big or small, if Newsom and Bass won’t protect ICE agents from people obstructing them and their duties to arrest someone, then the President will take action, it’s just as simple as that.

as required by law, were snatched at the court house by ICE.

What are they to do? Not follow the law?

Illegal, not legal.

bass4funk

Protesting your government and obstructing a Federal agent with a lawful executed order to detain and take someone in is a crime, protesting in itself is not.

Funny, I didn't see any downed ICE agents being attacked by flagpoles yesterday.

Everyone knows Jan 6th was far worse.

Trump creating a distraction from something in the news again lately. I wonder what?

ICE is stopping people in LA and asking for their IDs.

All people living in the United States, including undocumented immigrants, have certain U.S. Constitutional rights. If you are undocumented and immigration (ICE) officers stop you on the street or in a public place, know you have the following rights:

https://pennstatelaw.psu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdfs/Immigrants/Public_Customize.pdf

Funny, I didn't see any downed ICE agents being attacked by flagpoles yesterday.

https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1931503378812883433?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

https://x.com/broomba51/status/1931503923350704307?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

So anyway, the attacks will come to an end, you can’t attack Federal agents and not expect any consequences

TRUMPS DREAM IS COMING TRUE, on the road to a total DICTATERSHIP.

What are they to do? Not follow the law?

they actually DO follow the law, yes,

they refrain from violence against law enforcement. Refrain from throwing chunks of concrete at ICE agents heads. Refrain from lighting things on fire, refrain from looting the local AM/PM.

insurrectionists who violently stormed the Capitol, attacking and injuring federal police.

Why are you still clinging to that narrative when it has been resoundingly debunked? People at the Capitol were let in by police, with video evidence showing doors being opened and barriers removed, with protesters seen chatting and shaking hands with police:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x87diu3

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/newly-released-j6-footage-shows-more-300-rioters-entered-building-through

If there’s one thing the US has mastered, it’s outdoing the French in the art of government overreaction. Oh, mon Dieu! The French might blockade a roundabout or set a très chic bin on fire, but the Americans? They deploy the National Guard because some folks had the audacity to chant ICE out of L.A. while waving Mexican flags. Quelle horreur!  

"We’ll send in the Marines if you keep throwing shopping carts”—lol because nothing says "land of the free" like tear gas.

The Chinese, the masters of nipping protests in the bud, wouldn’t come close to holding a candle to this.

bass4funk

So anyway, the attacks will come to an end, you can’t attack Federal agents and not expect any consequences

You can expect to be pardoned by Trump.

Our next President in 2029 nailed it:

“One of the main technical issues in the immigration judicial battles is whether Biden's border crisis counted as an "invasion."

So now we have foreign nationals with no legal right to be in the country waving foreign flags and assaulting law enforcement. If only we had a good word for that...”

Even the LAPD is saying the National Guard isn't needed and commending people for exercising their right to protest.

When law enforcement wears masks to hide their faces, you're looking at a face full of fascism.

Saying Jan 6th was different and irrelevant is lunacy.

ICE is stopping people in LA and asking for their IDs.

Yes, as they should

All people living in the United States, including undocumented immigrants, have certain U.S. Constitutional rights.

You don’t have the right to attack any law enforcement officer or agency, NONE.

If you are undocumented and immigration (ICE) officers stop you on the street or in a public place, know you have the following rights:

You have rights, but they are limited and you cannot resist an arrest by any law enforcement.

The Grandchildren, and Children of immigrants chasing and punishing Immigrants seeking a better life in America.

As one historian put it,

" Never shut the door in the face of a needy, bcz. you never know when you will be on the other side of that door. "

No law in the United States mandates everyone to carry ID at all times.

Love the appeal to authoritarian measures. Learn from the Chinese crackdowns: perfect record in Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

California always voted Democrats and Trump knows it damn well.

After shooting fireworks at, throwing concrete chunks at, or physically assaulting law enforcement? I think your previous “rights” become quite limited.

Right to remain silent, right to an attorney, right for a free ride to jail.

Interesting. In reality only a slight climb on the escalation ladder with regards to civil unrest. Trump has yet to invoke the Insurrection Act which would give this real teeth and definitely move the ladder up a few rungs.

We can see Hegseth is not mucking around and should his commander order it - with legal Article 10 authority and the above act - he is ready to put a special military operation into action, including sending in the Marines, as the article mentions.

The question is the possible future escalatory nature of the violent protests and what ladder-rungs are appropriate to confront this possible threat, especially since the state and city leaders have failed abysmally.

Couldn't happen to a nicer country and a nicer people.

Good luck to the protesters against the national guard and the federal authorities. They are legitimate targets, and violent means have been ruled to be acceptable. Hit the national guard hard with any means necessary.

Mr. Hegseth, a twisted individual even threatened to send in the Marines out of camp Pendleton home of the braves "" Do you have what it takes? Home of Americas most lethal worriers. "" to chase Immigrants on the streets of LA, how SICK.

California always voted Democrats

Ronald and Arnold say hi!

If you support Jan 6 insurrectionists being pardoned, you can sit this one out. You have no moral authority.

Protests escalate into conflict in Los Angeles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmffYvuzAY

Ice is mandated by the people, to remove undocumented illegals.

Violent looting rioting must be met with harsh retribution, if deemed necessary for the need to deploy the National Guard, then so be it.

Go home

Watching live at the moment. Local Hispanic people.

Not just Hispanic, Blacks, Whites all mixed.

And?

No law against using the military inside the country against foreign nationals. 

I don’t see the problem.

Gavin Newsom

@GavinNewsom

I have formally requested the Trump Administration rescind their unlawful deployment of troops in Los Angeles county and return them to my command. 

We didn’t have a problem until Trump got involved. This is a serious breach of state sovereignty — inflaming tensions while pulling resources from where they’re actually needed.

Rescind the order. Return control to California.

https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1931840646773715068

So now we have foreign nationals with no legal right to be in the country waving foreign flags and assaulting law enforcement. If only we had a good word for that...”

We do: “protesters.”

Even the LAPD is saying the National Guard isn't needed and commending people for exercising their right to protest.

With all due respect to the LAPD, but they answer to Bass, so I am not surprised by that, having lived through a bunch of riots in LA, I can say, no more, Newsom could have had this stopped in its tracks the moment the mob was swarming, but he decides to involve the President?? His state, his constituents who are, by the way, leaving the State by the thousands, he answers to these people. Newsom lost it, at least Bass didn't leave the State this time, so at least somewhat of good news.

When law enforcement wears masks to hide their faces, you're looking at a face full of fascism.

No, not all. When mobsters doxx and try to swat these agents, they have the right to protect their identities; that is their job. The protesters, on the other hand, it is not their job, and if they were so convinced that what they are doing is right, why where a mask? Because they don't want to get arrested.

Saying Jan 6th was different and irrelevant is lunacy.

Libs are the ones bringing it up, no one else in the chat, not sure why, but whatever.

I can see parallels with the UK press here, in how people like to drum up fear (so as to justify law enforcement smacking the seven shades of sh*t out of anyone they don't like the look of). Primitive racism allied to a willingness to make up the most implausible scenarios. Anything to avoid having to think that the people protesting might have a point.

Saying Jan 6th was different and irrelevant is lunacy.

Libs are the ones bringing it up, no one else in the chat, not sure why, but whatever.

Because some posters have very selective memory in the ”You don’t have the right to attack any law enforcement officer or agency, NONE” department.

Peter NeilToday  07:32 am JST

Trump creating a distraction from something in the news again lately. I wonder what?

Could be any one of a number of things that he can't or won't do anything about. The MAGA faithful do seem to get all aroused and excited when he gets men with big guns to terrorise immigrants though. They can all pretend it actually serves a more useful purpose than figuring out why those people don't want to stay in their own countries and doing something about it.

Rep. Jimmy Gomez Statement on ICE Detaining Families in Basement of LA Federal Building

“These are very disturbing reports from LA's Roybal Federal Building. Law-abiding asylum seekers — many with kids — are being detained after showing up for routine ICE check-ins. No food. No water. Locked in holding rooms for over 12 to 24 hours.

“These are not criminals. These are families who followed the rules. Filed the paperwork. Showed up on time. Instead, they're being treated like they broke the law just for seeking asylum.

“One attorney reports her client was held without food or water from 2pm through the next day. His wife and 2 kids waited 12+ hours with nothing. No water. No explanation.

https://gomez.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4459

ICE agents are set to raid homes and businesses for the next 30 days.

Fair to conclude Trump was provoked by those broadcasts of rioters taking over a major traffic intersection, burning vehicles and masked individuals riding dirt bikes and mopeds - which lacked tags - round and round while waving the flag of another country. These provocations are fodder for the administration and TV news helicopters.

Also fair to point the finger at state and city leaders who have encouraged, if not proudly orchestrated, sanctuary city policies which has created this mess, aggravated by the wolf whistling that legitimizes this conduct. Important to observe the popularly elected administration is simply fulfilling law enforcement obligations expected of it.

I’m a Democrat but these riots need to stop. Violence and the destruction of private property are not acceptable.

Far leftists left need to realize riots like this only hurt us politically. Illegal immigration and crime were 2 huge issues that drove a lot of people vote for Trump. The images coming out of people attacking buildings and waving foreign flags are only going to hurt us politically.

Let’s not forget: back in the day, this was Alta California, proudly Mexican until 1848, when the U.S. said, “Hola, we’ll be taking that now, gracias.” A bit cheeky, really—like borrowing your neighbor’s lawnmower, building a mansion on their garden, then making them mow your lawns in their mow blow gigs.

So now, when the National Guard pops up in Los Angeles, one might cheekily say, “Oi, didn’t you lot borrow this place from Mexico? Maybe text them and ask if they want it back?”

People are bringing up Jan 6th because rioters attacked police and looted the Capitol building, then were pardoned.

ICE should be stopping people randomly on the streets and asking for ID?

This is the first step on road to the depths of fascism.

And the people snatched by ICE were not undocumented. They were documented and following the law by appearing at their immigration hearings.

I’ve finally figured out Trump’s intent. He lost the 2020 election and his only agenda is to burn down America as revenge. He wants to destroy the country in a personal vendetta.

Trump and MAGA are anarchists.

Let’s not forget: back in the day, this was Alta California, proudly Mexican until 1848, when the U.S. said, “Hola, we’ll be taking that now, gracias.” A bit cheeky, really—like borrowing your neighbor’s lawnmower, building a mansion on their garden, then making them mow your lawns in their mow blow gigs. 

The people living in Alta California when it became part of the U.S. were granted U.S. citizenship though so I don’t see your point.

There are legitimate routes/means to enter US borders, people smuggling thrives on open borders.

Ice/U.S. Department of Homeland Security have a duty to safe guard the people from organised criminal people smuggling gangs.

UK government has struggling with these organised criminal people smuggling gangs, present and past government policy has been a total failure, “smash the gangs” in no more than a slogan.

Only a "strong deterrent" can bring about change.

I’m a Democrat but these riots need to stop. Violence and the destruction of private property are not acceptable.

As someone who is neither democrat nor republican (not American), what then is the suitable response to these ICE agents, who seem to get the wrong person on a fairly regular basis? Sit back and let them do it while writing a strongly worded letter to one's congressperson?

Rep. Jimmy Gomez Statement on ICE Detaining Families in Basement of LA Federal Building

“These are very disturbing reports from LA's Roybal Federal Building. Law-abiding asylum seekers — many with kids — are being detained after showing up for routine ICE check-ins. No food. No water. Locked in holding rooms for over 12 to 24 hours.

So don’t interfere with ICE agents doing their job.

“These are not criminals. These are families who followed the rules. Filed the paperwork. Showed up on time. Instead, they're being treated like they broke the law just for seeking asylum.

Once you start and get caught in the mayhem, you need to deal with the consequences and fallout

“One attorney reports her client was held without food or water from 2pm through the next day. His wife and 2 kids waited 12+ hours with nothing. No water. No explanation.

Again, actions have consequences

Depressingly familiar. There may have to be modern re-runs of the Kent State and Orangeburg shootings before American public opinion decides to turn away from authoritarianism.

As someone who is neither democrat nor republican (not American), what then is the suitable response to these ICE agents, who seem to get the wrong person on a fairly regular basis? Sit back and let them do it while writing a strongly worded letter to one's congressperson?

Peaceful protesting and supporting law firms that fight to guarantee due process. Do you think rioting is going to help in any way shape or form?

Again, actions have consequences.

Unless you’re supporting trump

If you are undocumented and immigration (ICE) officers stop you on the street or in a public place, know you have the following rights

Nobody here is undocumented living in Los Angeles.

People are bringing up Jan 6th because rioters attacked police and looted the Capitol building, then were pardoned.

I see

ICE should be stopping people randomly on the streets and asking for ID?

If you attacked them, yes.

This is the first step on road to the depths of fascism.

Well, then talk to Newsom and Bass about that, they’re the ones letting this fly off the rails

And the people snatched by ICE were not undocumented. They were documented and following the law by appearing at their immigration hearings.

According to whom?

I’ve finally figured out Trump’s intent. He lost the 2020 election and his only agenda is to burn down America as revenge. He wants to destroy the country in a personal vendetta.

Trump and MAGA are anarchists.

Oh, dear lord, Lol! Seems like 2028 will just be an impossible dream for the left

This political stand off is very ugly, and will probably create severe consequences tensions within communities, democrats should support government instead of provoking extreme political divide.

Again, actions have consequences

Still waiting consequences for trump and his family.

It takes the media heat off the Trump-Musk very public dirty divorce. Pass the popcorn.

People Republic of California is burning. Bring back the memory of 1994 LA riot. LA has survived bush fire and many natural disasters. Trump fire is a man made disaster. It is ruining LA friendly image as welcoming host. It will host the Summer Olympic in 3 years.

If Altheletes will see national guards on the road, Olympic will start with closing ceremony rather than opening.

It takes the media heat off the Trump-Musk very public dirty divorce. Pass the popcorn.

No, people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

This is the America that Trump voters wanted. A fascist police state.

The rest of the world is pointing and laughing. With our popcorn, of course!

Target those National Guard scum.

This is the America that Trump voters wanted. A fascist police state. 

The rest of the world is pointing and laughing. With our popcorn, of course!

Target those National Guard scum.

This is why leftists are so infuriating. You don’t actually care about politics or gaining political power. Rioting and attacking the national guard would be the worst decision optics wise and cause Democratic support to go down nationwide. Why do you think we lost 2020? Immigration and Biden’s PERCEIVED weakness on it was one of the most cited voter concerns. You’re only helping Trump gain more popularity if you keep supporting violence like this. You don’t actually care though

No, people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You’re overestimating the intelligence of maga voters.

You’re overestimating the intelligence of maga voters.

No, Newsom and Bass are underestimating their constituents

On January 6th, Trump instigated a mob to assault the U.S. government, an act of high treason. Thousands of his followers stormed the Capitol and attacked the police which resulted in injury and death to them. Those attackers have been fully pardoned. Now Trump has placed the National Guard in LA as if it’s his own private army, much like a little boy with toy soldiers.

It is ironic. Just as Trump’s military parade is bizarre due to his draft dodging history.

The Dimwit ain't foolin' no one...

This is a pure, obvious provocation to distract from his series of scandals and failures...

First we have his "messy divorce" from the MAGA-Prince Musk, who accused him of being in the Epstein files and then hiding them...and who called his Billionaire Bonanza bill a "disgusting abomination" - a view MAGA-Princess MTG agrees with...

Second, we find out the "Drunk" Hegseth tried to destroy evidence in his Signalgate fiasco...

Third, the "war" he said he would solve within 24 hours? It's escalating and he's turned tail and given up - showing his new nickname is entirely warranted...

Fourth, seen any of those promised "best-ever" trade deals? Nope...another clear failure...

He's grasping at anything to dodge and deflect from his cratering administration....

Which means the Mullahs in Tehran should be very careful, because once his National Guard hustle fails, he'll try something larger...

People are bringing up Jan 6th because rioters attacked police and looted the Capitol building, then were pardoned.

I see

Huh?

ICE has two Key Legal 'mandates' from the American Public and Illegal Immigrant community.

First, identify and detain any known criminal and national security threat illegal aliens

Second, identify and recover any known missing illegal alien children, estimated at almost 500,000 children

DJ Trump was elected to secure the Border, detain and deport illegal aliens, especially criminals and to recover the many children missing due to the Biden Admin Open Border Policy that fueled historical human trafficking.

Sanctuary cities and states like LA and CA pertain to above mandates, only scale of the operation, people involved, far larger than probably anywhere in the US

Do you think the undocumented wear signs and have no rights?

They have no right to be in the country. They have no right to assault the police

ICE has two Key Legal 'mandates' from the American Public and Illegal Immigrant community.

How exactly did ICE receive a mandate from the ‘Illegal Immigrant’ community?

National Guard and potentially others like the US Marine Corp, simply there in LA to better ensure that ICE can pursue its legal mandates in the safest manner possible.

Trump Admin and ICE, simply cleaning up the dangerous illegal immigration mess created by the Biden Admin open borders, that's resulted in countless numbers of crimes, fueled inflation and destabilized all of society.

US Citizens want LEGAL Vetted Immigrants, not Unvetted Illegals, just like every other Country

If California Governor Gavin Newsom, has supported communities instead of cynically provoking action, decision, in a volatile situation to recklessly gain/maintaining political divisiveness, riling the student ever combustible consciousness.

Then the national guard could have stayed at “home”

 Newsom is culpable.

funkymofoToday  08:58 am JST

ICE has two Key Legal 'mandates' from the American Public and Illegal Immigrant community.

How exactly did ICE receive a mandate from the ‘Illegal Immigrant’ community?

Good question. There are hundreds of thousands of parents from around the world in touch with the US State Dept, regarding their missing children, many of whom have been human trafficked into the US illegally.

Thus, ICE's coordinating with US State Dept and actively recovering such children EVERY day, including in LA.

Elements of the media are insinuating this is an unprecedented action, which is just not true.

Eisenhower sent the airborne into Arkansas. The Kennedys were no stranger to these types of deployments, against the 'wishes' of the state governor - there is even an old joke of the period how Bobby 'had it in for the State of Mississippi'. Johnson sent the national guard into Alabama in 65, again against the governor. Bush senior ordered a crackdown in this very same city. Hardly something new here.

Indeed the 1965 example is an excellent comparison - the governor refused to activate the NG so the president stepped in and did it for him. Same thing here: Newsome had every chance to cooperate but he chose not to. The very limited deployment is related to protecting federal buildings (look at the photos).

Good question. There are hundreds of thousands of parents from around the world in touch with the US State Dept, regarding their missing children, many of whom have been human trafficked into the US illegally.

Thus, ICE's coordinating with US State Dept and actively recovering such children EVERY day, including in LA.

Nothing to do with the question I asked.

funkymofoToday  09:07 am JST

Good question. There are hundreds of thousands of parents from around the world in touch with the US State Dept, regarding their missing children, many of whom have been human trafficked into the US illegally.

Thus, ICE's coordinating with US State Dept and actively recovering such children EVERY day, including in LA.

Nothing to do with the question I asked.

ICE, technically getting their mandate from the US State Dept., responding to the parents from around the world who have missing children in touch with US State Dept.

Fair enough? It's nearly 500K illegal alien children who are known to have entered the US but are 'missing', many of whom are in LA. Naturally, ICE busy also arresting Human Traffickers, along with child recovery.

Karen Bass just spoke, he’s going to meet with the governor soon and chief for police on figuring how to quell this situation and bring an end to it. Sadly, that ship sailed a long time ago.

I’ve finally figured out Trump’s intent.

Fulfilling campaign promises to his voters? The nerve of that guy!

ICE, technically getting their mandate from the US State Dept., responding to the parents from around the world who have missing children in touch with US State Dept.

Fair enough? It's nearly 500K illegal alien children who are known to have entered the US but are 'missing', many of whom are in LA. Naturally, ICE busy also arresting Human Traffickers, along with child recovery.

You can keep repeating the same irrelevant answer as much as you like- doesn’t make it any more relevant.

What mandate did ICE receive from the ‘Illegal Immigrant community’?

As others have said, pure distraction from public fallouts, failing tariff solutions, failing war negotiations etc etc.

Punch and Judy for the masses.

to quote in part - Neil Young -

Tin soldiers and Trump's coming we're finally on our own

Trump pardoned insurrectionists..

Well they were forcefully jailed for many years.. so going by your logic, all these insurrectionists in LA should be jailed and when dems are in power in , whenever that is, they could be pardoned.

It is unlawful if they step outside of their compound. They cannot legally be used for law enforcement purposes. The final disgrace of 47 has already begun, though.

masugomiToday 08:57 am JST

Do you think the undocumented wear signs and have no rights?

They have no right to be in the country. They have no right to assault the police

They have the right to a hearing, too.

Elements of the media are insinuating this is an unprecedented action, which is just not true.

2020 George Floyd protests, National Guard troops were deployed in several states, including California.

1992 The L.A. Riots following the Rodney King verdict saw thousands of National Guard troops deployed to restore order.

1960s The Guard was frequently used during the Civil Rights Movement, including in response to protests and school desegregation efforts.

“Unprecedented? The National Guard’s been to L.A. more times than the Rolling Stones and since the 60's and they’re still at it—like fine wine aged in a leather jacket in California oak longer than a Zin Alley Zinfandel.

Speaking to reporters in New Jersey, he threatened violence against demonstrators who spit on police or National Guard troops, saying "they spit, we hit." He did not cite any specific incidents.

They can do a lot more to your thugs than spit, tough guy.

California always voted Democrats and Trump knows it damn well.

Well, minus the illegal immigrant vote, it's a different story..

mrtinjpToday 09:32 am JST

California always voted Democrats and Trump knows it damn well.

Well, minus the illegal immigrant vote, it's a different story..

He says without any evidence whatsoever.

quercetumToday 09:31 am JST

All done at the request of the respective governors or with other legal authority. Simple as.

I don’t think the country can stand 3-1/2 more years of Trump. No the Marines can’t assist law enforcement in Amy way. It’s the Posse Comitatus Act that all of us veterans were schooled on early in basic training.

As for the situation on the ground now, this limited deployment to secure federal facilities has done exactly that, freeing up resources for DHS assets to execute the policies of the administration.

Depending on how the situation evolves and possible upsurge of violent riots, the escalation ladder may move up. As the article mentions, a very possible outcome is the Insurrection Act - which Trump spoke about at least once during his recent campaign - and more troops to cover teams of federal agents in the discharge of their legal duty out on the streets. The above act would allow for more elastic rules of engagement, as the article mentions too.

Unless Newsome gets his act together, that's where this is heading. When there is a city mayor weakly asking people to be peaceful and not throw objects at police, that is also part of the underlying problem. Some news reports (not verified) have indicated use of rubber bullets.

Threatening law enforcement and our military in support of violent foreign invaders waving Mexican flags in the streets?

that’s a bad look.

Like Jan 06?

It is divisive political activism that harbours belligerent violent discontent within communities. 

LA Riots LIVE | 2,000 National Guard deployed after anti-ICE protests | FBI hunts down rioters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NPK-v1Aqw

We are treated to the scene of proud Mexicans, waving Mexican flags and celebrating all things Mexican, vigorously objecting to the deportation of Mexican citizens unlawfully in this country to Mexico as somehow being cruel and unusual punishment.

Noticeably absent from these protests are Blacks residents of Los Angeles. Why? Mexican gangs attacked and violently forced out Blacks from Los Angeles neighborhoods like Compton and Inglewood under orders of the Mexican Mafia prison gang. It's an uncomfortable truth.

It’s always a treat when someone dramatically invokes the Posse Comitatus Act, like they’ve just uncovered a lost scroll of ancient wisdom.

“Aha! You see, the Marines can’t help with law enforcement!” It’s a bit like shouting, “You can’t use a flamethrower to light birthday candles!” Technically true, but also—who asked?

The Marines are just itching to swap amphibious assaults for issuing citations in Paramount.

Well, I guess Trump wouldn't have needed to do that had Newsom and Bass done their jobs and assisted ICE with UPHOLDING THE LAW rather than turning a blind eye and later blaming Trump for being "discriminatory/racist". But I guess it's much easier for our California libby politicians to let people support illegal immigration/open borders, get violent on the streets; attack law enforcement and destroy property and to blame Trump for doing the job he was voted to do.

Of course, we know Newsom and Bass are perfect examples of effective leadership. We can all see what a great job Newsom and Bass did when "managing" the situation with the wildfires last year.

Pure incompetence.

Pfft.

Every twenty or so years the UnUnited States goes through this process.

Civil Rights movement and the images of Police using attack dogs and water cannon.

Later, anti Vietnam protests and students shot dead by the National Guard.

More recently civil unrest over claims an election was won, not lost.

Banana republic .

lincolnmanToday  08:50 am JST

The Dimwit ain't foolin' no one...

Except for his supporters.

He's grasping at anything to dodge and deflect from his cratering administration....

Which means the Mullahs in Tehran should be very careful, because once his National Guard hustle fails, he'll try something larger...

I think Iran is one of the really big problems that Trump and the rest of the MAGA gang running the government are too scared to do anything about.

Gov. Newsome should 'read the room', California shifted +10pts towards Trump in 2024 election relative to 2020

Citizens of CA clearly losing confidence, as people and businesses flee CA for safer lower crime and tax states

Everyone understands CA has been mismanaged for many years, running huge Govt. deficits as the LA fires in Jan with their lack of water was ample such proof.

It's time for Gavin to listen to his voters and taxpayers, who want public safety and thus to work with DJ Trump, not fight him in court, where he'll lose anyway.

We are treated to the scene of proud Mexicans, waving Mexican flags and celebrating all things Mexican, vigorously objecting to the deportation of Mexican citizens unlawfully in this country to Mexico as somehow being cruel and unusual punishment.

What do you expect when you teach them to sing "This land is your land, this land is my land, from California to the New York Island?

When sung with gusto, apparently comes with a footnote: “Offer not valid at border crossings. Terms and conditions apply.”

The people children trafficking smuggling gangs, the mexican drug cartels, the devastating scrouge of fentanyl throughout communities must be expunged.

With prejudice, any means deemed necessary.

Let ICE/Homeland security protect communities, forcibly remove the clear and present danger.    

Politicians that refuse to recognise the threat,  in plain sight, must be held accountable.

If it were conservatives protesting something, and a democratic president sent out the National Guard, the MAGA people on here would be openly calling for protestors to attack and assault law enforcement...like they celebrated when the same thing happened on Jan 6. The hypocrisy is breathtaking, even though they're clearly immune to it.

More shame for the land of the free

I was in LA during the 92 riots. This is not a riot. Just NGO money and some warped leftists thinking they’re right.

I think they call this dog whistling.

Distract from the real stuff

Here is an example of an action at a detention center. The sally port door opens, surprising the rioters who are summarily routed and dispersed by large group of police officers employing a mixture of less-than-lethal equipment:

https://x.com/BowTiedMara/status/1931668071007064403

GuruMickToday 09:51 am JST

Every twenty or so years the UnUnited States goes through this process.

Civil Rights movement and the images of Police using attack dogs and water cannon.

Later, anti Vietnam protests and students shot dead by the National Guard.

More recently civil unrest over claims an election was won, not lost.

Banana republic .

Two of your examples were from the 60s and the last one wasn't a nationwide protest.

quercetumToday 09:50 am JST

It’s always a treat when someone dramatically invokes the Posse Comitatus Act, like they’ve just uncovered a lost scroll of ancient wisdom.

“Aha! You see, the Marines can’t help with law enforcement!” It’s a bit like shouting, “You can’t use a flamethrower to light birthday candles!” Technically true, but also—who asked?

The Marines are just itching to swap amphibious assaults for issuing citations in Paramount.

Hegseth clearly said the Marines were on standby. Cannot appear on the streets without an Insurrection Act red mark on the administration.

The "illegal immigrants " thing only started in the 1990,s, 2000,s as a conservative stick to beat liberals with.

Surprisingly the crazy Evangelical groups got on the program.

Now the rabid right headed by Trump and MAGA have taken this "issue "....thats what it is in the scheme of things/difficulties America faces.....and inflated it into a existential threat facing...white...America.

Throw in some more racism dressed as science, like "Replacement Theory " and you have the USA, worlds pre eminent military power running aroung like chickens in a rain storm.

What happened to "the Muslim problem " of Trumps first term ?

Solved was it ?

Or are these things just diversions for the chattering class to obsess about while vast tracts of wealth are redistributed to the ultra wealthy ?

It’s almost wake up time for black bloc.

Who could have imagined we'd have a Governor of the largest state so worried about protecting rights of illegal alien criminals, who are busy causing huge collateral damage to society, like human trafficking and drugs?!

Trumps got the high political, moral and legal ground here, as most Americans want illegal alien, especially criminals, deported ASAP and the many victims, including nearly 500K illegal alien children protected.

Gavin Newson will never be POTUS, that's clear as day

As promise by trump, so much win you will be tired of winning. Are we here yet?

Mass deportation of illegals is one of the most popular polling topics there is at like 80% approval.

why can Newsom only seem to communicate by social media? Gotta virtue signal where everyone can see it.

Like Jan 06?

Yes. Both are bad.

Los Angeles pro anarchy activists have blocked routes, major highways, with violent confrontation.

Clear, hold the criminals to account

Peaceful protest has always, and will continue to be, positively encouraged within democracies.

This violent civil unrest, the use of physical force, extreme destruction, disruption aggression must face zero tolerance head on.

Clear, hold the criminals to account

Trump has pardoned the criminals

California Governor: There’s no need to deploy the National Guard in LA

California AG: There’s no need to deploy the National Guard in LA

LAPD: There’s no need to deploy the National Guard in LA

Trump: I have no choice but to deploy the National Guard in LA

Consider the use of water cannon, kinetic impact projectiles, (batten rounds). Kettling

Correct.

Everyone who said there is no need says such because they don’t plan to take any actions.

The thin veneer eggshell has cracked open wide open exposing the rotting social decade of the USA political system. . In time of crisis a heath social comes together but here we are witnessing the take over of a state that has no cultural alinement with the federal political regime. Bru Ha USA

I don’t think the country can stand 3-1/2 more years of Trump.

Liberals, not sure, but this is what the country voted for.

No the Marines can’t assist law enforcement in Amy way. It’s the Posse Comitatus Act that all of us veterans were schooled on early in basic training.

Again, Bass can’t quell the situation, Trump is just not going to stand for any rioting, that’s it. Bass and Newsom had their chance.

2 jerkoffs just rode motorcycles full speed into a police line.

Peaceful protest my buttocks.

Taiwan ...US anti war protests still going on in the 70,s

Nice pedantry mate.

Is that your contribution ?

Now the “peaceful protesters” are calling self driving Waymos to their location and then lighting them on fire to use as barricades.

enough of this, deploy the Marines.

bass4funkToday 10:43 am JST

Again, Bass can’t quell the situation, Trump is just not going to stand for any rioting, that’s it. Bass and Newsom had their chance.

All I ask is that the thug regime in the White House out itself as such. They know they have no loyalty to the United States above Trump.

Trump is just not going to stand for any rioting, that’s it.

That's wrong. Trump is pro-riots.

Another factor to consider is the future implications for Newsome's national political ambitions in particular and the fortunes of the democratic party in general.

On the former, hard to imagine anything positive coming out of this, mirroring fire mismanagement. With regards to the latter, the party just doesn't seem to want to accept that mass illegal immigration is politically incendiary. And with the current administration showing that decades of negligence can be undone with proactive enforcement, the old 'we-can't-do-anything-about-it-so-just-accept-it' or other excuses are looking even more dubious.

Isnt this the time to use the right to bear arms against an aggressive government?

Come on Cali...

What America tolerates even celebrates in uses of force against its own people is a wonder to me.

You all seem to hate other groups different to the mainstream white group

What a crappy nation you turned out to be.

HopeSpringsEternal

Who could have imagined we'd have a Governor of the largest state so worried about protecting rights of illegal alien criminals, who are busy causing huge collateral damage to society, like human trafficking and drugs?!

This isn't about criminals causing damage to society.

It's about undocumented immigrants who pay taxes and contribute to society.

That's why citizens are sick of ICE disrupting their communities.

The extremism, where these rioters, insurgents, insurrectionists have far exceeded the 6th January riots.

These rioters are setting vehicles on fire screaming burn burn burn.

Democrats in silence, refusing to condemn this anarchy, instead provoking political destabilisation, akin to a ideological fundamentalism.

All I ask is that the thug regime in the White House out itself as such.

Wrong regime, you’re talking about Newsom and Bass, two of the absolute worst leaders ever to run California straight into the gutter, I don’t blame a single person fleeing that state and never looking back

They know they have no loyalty to the United States above Trump.

Wrong again

Trump has just commented on his SM platform:

Governor Gavin (creative nickname used) and "Mayor" Bass should apologize to the people of Los Angeles for the absolutely horrible job that they have done, and this now includes the ongoing L.A. riots. These are not protesters, they are troublemakers and insurrectionists. Remember, NO MASKS!

This isn't about criminals causing damage to society.

so how does all the fire and vandalism and violence, all things that cause damage to society, align?