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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.At least 22 people killed in Israeli airstrikes in Beirut; strike on Gaza school kills 27
By BILAL HUSSEIN, WAFAA SHURAFA and SAMY MAGDY BEIRUT©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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wallace
More than one million displaced people.
Tamarama
The 2 Israelis killed yesterday was quite big news in media outlets.
The 22 Palestinians Killed today seems like business as usual.
I guess we are comparing apples to oranges.
Capuchin
Israel's daily actions in bulletpoints.
-Bombs a neighbouring country's capital killing 22.
-Repeatedly targeting international peace keeping forces in Israel.
Kills 28 Palestinians, mostly women and children in the latest in a long series of attacks targeting schools being used as shelters for Palestinians they displaced.
Subject to a forthcoming UN report accusing them of the war crime of 'extermination' for its deliberate targeting of Gaza's health care infrastrure, doctors and emergency responders.RichardPearce
So, basically, the Butcher of Gaza is trying to carve his name into the flesh of Lebanon, and Syria. But will his arrogance drive him to attack Iran for a fateful third time, and end up committing suicide in a bunker rather than face capture and trial?
Capuchin
Oops
-Repeatedly targeting international peace keeping forces in Israel.
I meant Lebanon.
Alfie Noakes
The daily catalogue of crime is endless:
UN Commission finds war crimes and crimes against humanity in Israeli attacks on Gaza health facilities and treatment of detainees, hostages
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks
Israeli forces fire on UN peacekeepers in Lebanon
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155551
Israel seizes UNRWA headquarters’ land in Occupied Jerusalem
https://english.palinfo.com/news/2024/10/10/326823/
Israel Deliberately Targeting First Responders in Lebanon
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/9/reports-lebanons-first-responders-in-israeli-firing-line
UK Complicity in War Crimes
https://www.declassifieduk.org/u-s-special-ops-flights-to-israel-from-uks-cyprus-base-surge-under-starmer/
I just watched the film on X. It's evil beyond words. Anyone with an ounce of morality, humanity and shame wouldn't support it.
Aly Rustom
Disgusting, isn't it?
Richard, that's exactly what I think will happen to him.
Hear! Hear!
Chabbawanga
Id like to hear more about how the IDF intentionally targeted UN peace keepers in Lebanon. Whats that about?
proxy
If your country harbours a terrorist group funded by a foreign government things are guaranteed to go badly.
Lebanon needs to get series and start taking out their own trash.
Alfie Noakes
-Last week
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/10/04/irish-peacekeepers-lebanon-latest-israel-invasion/
-This week
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155551
-In a since-deleted tweet, Trump-era official Matthew RJ Brodsky called on Israel to "carpet bomb the Irish area and the drop napalm on it".
https://x.com/EvanDyerCBC/status/1844099191800483995
-Israel has murdered many heroic Irish UN peacekeepers, around 48 since the late 70s when they started.
Alfie Noakes
This Matthew RJ Brodsky has apparently been suspended from X for his repulsive comments.
dbsaiya
Proxy, first, you misspelled serious. Secondly, don't believe all the information about Israeli adversaries hiding amongst the population. That's the oldest used justification for mass killings. Want some examples? Burning of hamlets and the killing of civilians during the Vietnam war because they were "suspected" of harboring VC. What happens? My Lai. How about WMD and the false justification to invade Iraq? Go back further, the Roman siege of Jerusalem. They killed and destroyed the city and their justification was that Jewish rebels were hiding in the city. How about during the Crusades when they massacred Muslims with the same justification. Or, how about this? If a small town in the U.S. is very conservative and amongst the population there is an extremist white nationalist group that the FBI deems a domestic terrorist group, can they go in full force and destroy everything in the town including the babies?
Sanjinosebleed
I think you need to replace Lebanon with Israel! The only war criminals there are Netanyahu and the IDF. And the trash requiring removal would be Netanyahu, smotrich et al!
Attilathehungry
The IDF is trying to kill terrorists. Terrorists are cowards who hide amongst the civilian population. In many cases, the civilian population are at least somewhat supportive of the terrorists in their midst. So, they die. Such has been the way of war for millenia.
The war would be over tomorrow if Hezbollah stopped firing rockets at Israeli civilians. And if Hamas surrendered in Gaza. The dying would stop immediately.
proxy
@dbsaiya
Hezbollah has been declared a terrorist organization by a lot of well meaning countries. More than half of the citizens of Lebanon strongly oppose Hezbollah. Hezbollah did not comply with the UN resolution to disarm to bring peace in 2006. A foreign government, Iran has continued to fund and arm the terrorist organization within long-suffering Lebanon against the wished of most Lebanese citizens.
A foreign funded militia of 100,000 on its soil will bring bad results.
Lebanon has been weak in trying to appease the terrorists.
John
Don't see this ending anytime soon. Not until the IDF can't get hold of anymore ammo/ bombs cos nobody'll sell to them. Or Israel doesn't have the money to buy any. Dutch govt now getting sued for supplying weaponry. AIPAC gonna have its work cut out. In the meantime thousands more non-combatants will die, they had a "right to exist" but it was taken away. Doesn't seem as if bn & co are capable of diplomacy. Idiots.
Chabbawanga
Terrorist is just a label attached to any opponent of the West so they can sidestep IHL. Has been the case for decades. The term is politically loaded and for some reason only applies to non-state actors, despite state actors being equally capable of fulfilling the fundamental requirements of "terrorists", that being - "the use of violence or the threat of violence to instill fear, coerce, or intimidate individuals, governments, or societies, often to achieve political, ideological, or religious objectives."
By this definition nethanyahu is a terrorist.
WoodyLee
Bibi and his war mongers are LOOSING THEIR MINDS.
Can't get the hostages back,
Can't defeat Hamas,
Stock in Gaza sand and Can't leave,
Can't stop Hezbollah rockets,
And can't end the fighting,
Bibi is unable to end the fighting nor to continue with it and so killing civilians is the only option he has now.
Total FAILURE.
Attilathehungry
Chabba: terrorist is a label that is applied to human filth that gang rape young women, torture their hostages, and deliberately fire rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. Sounds like Hamas/ Hezbollah to me.
The IDF are simple people trying to defend their homes and families from barbarians. They don't want their country dragged back into the 7th century- they like human rights and civil rights for minorities like LGBT, etc. The Iran backed scum have no interest other than genocide.
Zaphod
Yeah, and clearly that was a completely random building and unrelated to Hizballah. And the AP photographer knows all about it.
Zaphod
WoodyLee
Fair enough. So what do you suggest they should do? Let Hamas and Hizballah declare victory and escalate the attacks? Something else? I am genuinely curious.
Negative Nancy
Correct.
wallace
Every American president since 1948 has supported Israel without exception. America donates $4 billion every year.
Toblerone
Every American president since 1948 has supported Israel without exception. America donates $4 billion every year.
So what are you saying? Harris is just business as usual, with a word salad thrown in.
Sanjinosebleed
What a load of bunk? These false stories were proven to be just that lies and misinformation!
Time to take of the rose coloured glasses!
The idf have and are collectively punishing 2million people (a war crime). They have slaughtered and seriously maimed over 150000 Palestinians alone 70% of which are women and children and are now starving the whole population of Gaza as further punishment (another war crime). Anyone with an idea knows who the real terrorists are!
Attilathehungry
Sanjin; the real terrorists are the ones who gang rape teenage girls whose crime is attending a music festival. The ones who behead foreign workers for the crime of being employed by Jews. The ones who fire unguided rockets at civilians. The ones who refuse to let their own civilians build shelters or escape. The ones who misuse and stea. aid money that was intended to better the lives of the civilians. The ones who murder LGBT people and enslave women.
I am personally amazed at the restraint shown by Israel. They have been very patient with the kleptocrats who surround them.
NB
The openly and formally declared agenda of Hezbollah is to exterminate Israel.
Chabbawanga
Negotiate. FFS, that thing people do instead of kill each other.
NB
Negotiate about what?
kurisupisu
Firing on and injuring UN peacekeepers.
Planting the Israeli flag on Lebanese soil.
Bombing civilians and trapping them in contaminated and disease ridden wastelands.
Israel needs to get seriious and start taking out its own war mongering trash!
Chabbawanga
Seriously?
NB
Seriously. What propositions should be placed on the negotoation table?
Attilathehungry
Yeah, it is a bit hard to negotiate when the other side has their starting position being "we want to kill all of you and steal everything you have". Until the terrorists renounce that position, negotiations will be futile.
Chabba, if you are uncomfortable reading about what the terrorists you support actually do, then perhaps you should reconsider supporting them.
Chabbawanga
First and foremost is a ceasefire in Gaza. Hezbollah have stated on multiple occasions that cross-border attacks will continue until there is a ceasefire. As have the Houthis.
NB
Israel should negotiate with Lebanon about a ceasefire in Gaza? What is the standing of Lebanon regarding the conflict between Israel and Hamas?
Chabbawanga
I comdemn anyone who kills innocent people, I condemn anyone who uses sexual violence as a weapon. The difference between you and me is that I dont have a double standard about it.
Chabbawanga
Israel needs to negotiate with Hamas and Lebanon. They are two different parties. The stance of Lebanon regarding the conflict in Gaza I am sure is multifaceted. Many people in Lebanon support the resistance, but there are also many people who don't like Hezbollah operating out of the South.
NB
Do you know what Hamas did?
Chabbawanga
Do I know what Hamas has been accused of with little supporting evidence? Yes. If it is true then it is deplorable. Do you know what Israel has done for 75 years?
NB
Do you refer to the "resistance" to the Saudi and Emirate efforts to settle the Middle East conflict? Do you refer to the "resistence" to the existence of another nation? Do you refer to the "resistence" that is carried out by raiding on peaceful villages and butchering babies?
Attilathehungry
What has Israel done for 75 years? Survived. Survived multiple attacks from genocide intent enemies, from 1948 to now. And been remarkably restrained in not seeking permanent revenge on the perpetrators.
If you need evidence of Hamas' atrocities, try to see the movie "Bearing Witness". If you can stomach it.
NB
Do you know what Israel has done for 75 years?
Israel extended its hand three times to the Palestinians: 1) Israel endorsed the 1947 UGA resolution about establishing two states. The Palestinians responded with a war in 1948. 2) Israel went to the Oslo process. The Palestinians made a U-turn in the year 2000 and lauched a terror campaign. 3) Israel epplied to Saudi mediation. The Palestinians thwarted the Saudi effort by launching a grand massacre in October 2023.
Chabbawanga
I am talking about the Palestinian resistance movement. The resistance of a 75 year military occupation.
I dont think that killing civilians is an acceptable form of resistance, but Israel would say sometimes civilian casualties are just a tragic consequence of war. Thousands of Gazan children and hundred of babies have been killed by Israel. 2023 was the most deadly year for Palestinian children even before October 7th happened. I believe 2 babies, and aroud 30-40 children were killed by Hamas militants or hangers-on on October 7th, which is disgusting. Those responsible for those deaths should be held accountable. Those responsible for the death of all the children in Gaza and the West Bank should also be held accountable. No double standards.
And before you say "Hamas is responsible", I do not accept that as the truth. Israel bombed them, Israel killed them. "But If Hamas hadnt attacked, then no Gazans would have died". Whatever. If Israel had never been established then October 7th would never have happened. Lets just leave that stupid argument there.
Zaphod
Chabbawanga
Yes. (I assume you mean Hamas and Hizballah, as Israel is not at war with "Lebanon").
Now tell us how to negotiate with people who do not recognize your right to exist.
Chabbawanga
Israel has never tried to make peace. Perhaps Rabin was the closest Israel ever got, but we know what happened to him. You can reel off a bunch of meetings where The US "mediated" some sort of peace agreement, but in the meantime Israel continued to expand their settlements in the background, in addition to a long list of breaches of international humanitarian law.
Attilathehungry
Ah, so your argument, at its base, is that Israel should not exist. You are an anti-semite to the core. Thank you for revealing yourself in all your racist glory.
NB
They were actually killed by Hamas, which started the whole madness of exterminating the neighbor nation. The whole responsibility for the disaster rests on Hamas and on Lebanon.
Chabbawanga
Are you completely incapable of processing information written in front of you? When have I ever said that Israel shouldnt exist?
Chabbawanga
The complete inability to take responsibility for ones actions is a tell-tale sign of psychopathy.
If someone killed my wife or one of my children, and I decided to take revenge by blowing the murderer in his home with his whole family, with or without the knowledge of their presence, I am not devoid of guilt.
NB
If you support coexistence, you should support the replacement of Hamas with a sane Palestinian leadership that seekes a solution to the conflict, as well as support a renouncement of Lebanon from the gonocidal agenda of HizebAllah, that costs Lebanon dearly.
Chabbawanga
I support that 100%. I dont think that Hamas should be left in charge of Gaza. I also dont think that any peace deal can be made until the current right-wing, ethno-fascist Israeli government is replaced also.
Like I have repeated many time, there should be no double standards. Hamas caused the suffering of many innocents in Israel, The Israeli government and the IDF has caused even greater suffering of innocent civilians in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon.
RichardPearce
When the targets are Netanyahu's militants headquarters, or missile factories, the attacks are described as being aimed at the cities they are embedded in.
When Netanyahu bombs cities into wastelands of rubble and bodies, the targets are described as 'militant headquarters' and 'missile factories'.