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TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump minions playing cute but they are just ugly manchildren.
theFu
The best level of incompetence that fake loyalty can buy. That's Trump's entire team, from what I can see.
Why is Musk still involved at all? His conflicts of interest are so very clear that need needs to quit anything tied to making govt decisions - or leave his jobs as SpaceX and Tesla leader. Don't forget that SpaceX sells the US military not just launch services, but communications services via Starlink. Huge conflicts of interest.
stormcrow
“Wreck it and then rob it.”
That just about sums it up best as to the way these billionaire robber barons are thinking.
Steal from the poor and give to the rich.
Peter Neil
musk doesn’t pay a penny into social security or medicare. and he’s calling the shots.
bass4funk
It was never going to happen to begin with.
bass4funk
As an advisor to the President, he does.
patkim
And all of this information is being looked at a bunch of young kids who have not been properly trained and vetted.
But should we be surprised by what Trump does anymore? He wrecks something, see what response he gets, then scrambles to put it back when approval ratings dip, and when he restores services, although not in a good state, he expects people to praise him that he gave back to the people what they already had in the first place.
bass4funk
But then for 4 years we had people who were supposedly qualified or experienced and how did it end, with the entire party being wiped out.
His approval is fine 49% is a very comfortable place to be for any President, it’s in the 20’s that should worry you. He’s not always going to get it right, he’s human, but the great thing is, he’s pushing on despite the activist judges hurdles being thrown at him, but he will overcome those in time.
Good state, he hasn’t been 6 months on the job. If Biden can fundamentally transform the nation in such a record time, Trump can and will do the same thing, if Dems don’t like that, start winning elections soundly and have a message, hating MAGA and the orange man will not push any lib agenda forward or get them back the House.
Bob Fosse
A lot of 47 headlines containing the words ‘rebuked’ and ‘backs down’ recently.
WoodyLee
Messing around with citizens lively hood is NO Joke at all, millions of Americans who worked their entire young age are surviving with SS aid and support, May be American's should STOP paying their SS and other federal taxes and see how long Trump will stay in office!?
I'veSeenFootage
I fully support the efforts of the Trump administration to complete gut social security because it will guarantee the GOP doesn't come close to power for the next 25 years.
WoodyLee
Pres. Trump is beginning to act like a MENACE.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Is this another "just two more weeks in the Supreme Court" argument?
Bob Fosse
He has had the highest initial disapproval rating of any US president since 1953. Twice. His highest and lowest approval rates are worse than Biden’s and will not be getting any better.
But sure, it’s a ‘comfortable place’ for any President.
bass4funk
Actually, that’s not true, Kennedy did, his average disapproval rating during his presidency was around 20%, and at times, it dropped as low as 13% in Gallup polls.
Again, not True, unless you are quoting as usual liberal partisan polls. But tbh, it doesn’t matter, the election is over Bob. Litigating this won’t help the Dems
49% is indeed
bass4funk
No argument, that’s what’s going to happen. I have never known a party like the Dems who are just hellbent on losing more than they already have.
TaiwanIsNotChina
1 seat away from power in the House is not wiped out.
So just two more weeks, got it.
May I introduce you to the "let's gut Social Security and Medicare" and "let's put troops on the streets" MAGA?
bass4funk
Lib wishful hypotheticals again? Win some elections first have a message because the Dems don’t even have a leader at the moment.
Not going to happen and fear-mongering won’t help the Dems. Again, listen to Carville, the man is old skool.
Bob Fosse
Gallup polls? Ok. Here you are then. Gallup polls. Take your time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating#Historical_comparison
wallace
Gallup Historical Presidential Job Approval Statistics
John Kennedy January 1961-November 1963 70.1%. The highest of the last 14 presidents.
Donald Trump January 2017-January 2021 41.1% His first term.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx
Bob Fosse
What!? You are clearly confused. Read what you posted, take a moment.
wallace
Millions of needy Americans need social security to survive. In 2022, around one in three Americans was enrolled in at least one government assistance program.
Nearly 100 million Americans received some form of government assistance in 2019, according to a 2023 estimate from the Department of Health and Human Services.
https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-receive-government-assistance/
TaiwanIsNotChina
Do Trump and minions strike you as the kind of people with any kind of self control? They can't even resist calling a 1.5% vote win a mandate.
OssanAmerica
Another appointee not fit for the job.
Bob Fosse
Ok. Is this the sort of thing you mean? Does it count as ‘old skool’ if he said it just a couple of weeks ago?
"I believe that this administration, in less than 30 days is in the midst of a massive collapse, in particularly a collapse in public opinion," Carville said.
Peter Neil
it’s not a democrat thing, it’s an everyone thing.
trump and musk are bringing the country together toward a revolt against their arrogant, dictatorial ways, regardless of party, age, gender, race - the 99% economically who are not going to take much more of this. the groundswell is growing.
there will be a galvanizing surge to defeat the cowardly republicans who have been silent next year in mid-term elections. cowards who won’t show up for town halls anymore. what does that tell you?
the winds are changing and trump and musk fanbois and apologists are not going to win this fight.
factchecker
" fully support the efforts of the Trump administration to complete gut social security because it will guarantee the GOP doesn't come close to power for the next 25 years. "
You're assuming there will be elections in the future. It's highly unlikely there will be in fascist America.
Blacklabel
The judge wrote an unclear “order” in their haste to “get Trump” it seems. They had to clarify it.
Desperately fighting about polls again- that 49% is supposedly bad?
oh well. The election we just had was the only poll that matters.
bass4funk
John F. Kennedy’s lowest recorded disapproval rating of 13% occurred in March 1961, just two months after he took office.This was during the early “honeymoon phase” of his presidency, when public optimism was high. However, his disapproval rating later fluctuated due to events like the Bay of Pigs invasion (April 1961) and Cuban Missile Crisis (October 1962)
Which is still great for the political climate as divisive as it is.
bass4funk
No, I’m talking about his message to the Dems as to how to be a more productive and effective party.
Bob Fosse
Oh. So don’t listen to Carville? Or just sometimes if he says something you like?
Underworld
Blacklabel
They only had to clarify it because of willful ignorance on the head of the U.S. Social Security Administration.
Blacklabel
Oh are you sure?
if so then there would have been no clarification issued or needed.
nishikat
Then why is President Elon in charge? I thought Trump was elected. BYD is eating up Tesla. Tesla really has no fresh lineup of cars. The Cybertruck is garbage.
wallace
That means only 13% disapproved and 87% approved.
John F. Kennedy’s lowest recorded approval rating was 56%., (1963-09-17). His highest was 82. 1961-05-03, 1961-06-06.
Trump's first-term figures are less than half.
bass4funk
Listen to Carville
Well, use his common sense and vote on issues that help American lives, hating Trump won’t fill anyone’s belly, nor will it pay the bills and maybe one day you can win an election
Bob Fosse
Gallup. The one Bass referenced. Also all the others.
Ok. Carville recently: "I believe that this administration, in less than 30 days is in the midst of a massive collapse, in particularly a collapse in public opinion,"
Thanks for the advice.
bass4funk
But highest for any Republican President especially with all the carnage he has to clean up from the last administration.
Bob Fosse
Nope.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/655955/trump-inaugural-approval-rating-historically-low-again.aspx
plasticmonkey
bull
HopeSpringsEternal
Great news is due to DOGE, Social Security's Programs will become FAR more sustainable and solvent.
DJT and Elon constantly remind voters, they're removing millions & millions of 'fake' and thus unauthorized Social Security (SS) recipients including illegal immigrants in order to protect current and future program beneficiaries
Elon Musk estimated current illegal SS payments made to illegal immigrants between $100-200Billion annually.
SS fraud taking place within disability, Small Business Admin and Student Loans, along with Medicare and regular benefits, much traced to groups outside the US.
Elon made above statements on recent Podcast called "the Verdict", part I with Senator Ted Cruz, please watch
HopeSpringsEternal
All US Govt. IT systems in process of being upgraded, due to efforts of DOGE, possibly none more important than the Social Security Administration.
Blockchain with a dynamic ledger system will make $fraud far tougher and thus protect the US taxpayer.
Above, big reason why US Treasury Bond interest rates falling since Jan 20th. US Govt. deficits will be cut bigtime due to DOGE eliminating inefficiency and corruption, especially entitlement Social Security program
wallace
In fiscal year 2024, Social Security accounted for approximately 21.5% of the federal budget. Sooner than later Trump will be slicing the cake and the needy will suffer.
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
They have found zero unauthorized Social Security (SS) recipients.
HopeSpringsEternal
Elon Musk is VERY connected to reality and data driven DOGE team has uncovered tens of millions of 'fake' social security numbers and recipients.
Again, Musk stated this week on podcast below total illegitimate/illegal Social Security Program Payments somewhere between $500-700Billion, he's on the record in multiple interviews with this figure etc.
Above = Why DJT hired Elon Musk = $results
Elon made above statements on recent Podcast called "the Verdict", part I with Senator Ted Cruz, please watch
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
What Musk says and what is the truth are very different things.
If these illegitimate/illegal Social Security Program Payments exist, then that is fraud.
How many recipients of these illegitimate/illegal Social Security Program Payments have been arrested? How many lawsuits have started?
Where is the evidence of this massive fraud?
It doesn't exist.