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falseflagsteve
Both of them nutty as a fruitcake for sure.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Well it is probably somewhere where Trump's mind is.
JeffLee
Inevitable, I guess. It's difficult for highly insecure egotistical meglamaniacs with touches of autism to be friends with each other. Easy to be enemies, though.
BakaFugu
I hate it when dysfunctional couples air their dirty laundry in public.
Underworld
As I predicted, Trump Elon bromance fallout.
It's what happens with narcissists.
geronimo2006
Putin's gone crazy and Elon's lost his mind. This seems to be Trump's standard strategy for dealing with people and situations out of his control. I'm pretty sure he'll soon give in to Elon if he does have leverage over Trump with those files. Must be some real dirt.
bass4funk
The Dems and the Biden administration had the Epstein files for years, they hate Trump to the extreme visceral level, tried to make sure he didn’t get back into office, they tried to (unsuccessfully) charge him with outlandish bogus charges, keep him locked and bogged down in the courts, that didn’t work, they tried to take him out, twice, that didn’t work, they went after this guy with everything they had from the documents to Stormy, none of that stuck, had there been ANY damning evidence of Trump engaging with Epstein in any nefarious deplorable immoral crimes they would have ran with it.
kwatt
They both are old childish. Good boys, suddenly fighting each other just like neighbors' kids.
Underworld
bass4funk
How do you know?
Yes. But they wouldn't release anything just to make Trump look bad.
No, they don't.
Only by campaigning.
Successfully charged him with very real charges.
They were real serious charges.
Well the courts beg to differ. He was found guilty on all 34 counts by a jury of his peers.
There's probably damning evidence, but not enough to charge Trump. It would only hurt him in the court of public opinion.
Tamarama
Narcissists probably don't make great bedfellows.
Blacklabel
“That’s when Fetterman said Democrats need to make up their minds on Musk.
“We have to decide, you know, where are we thinking about him,” he said. I’m saying, it’s like he’s right about the big beautiful bill. And suddenly it wasn’t that long ago that Tesla was like the virtue signaling kind of accessory for Dems as well, too. So, now where rare we at on this kind of a thing now? I follow what is the truth. I would never want to vandalize Teslas and now the big beautiful bill is wrong for America.
“So, from my perspective, I just try to be consistent through that.”
bass4funk
I don’t need to, THEY are the ones who hated Trump. THEY are the ones who didn’t want Trump back in the White House.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I think you need to make up your mind about Fetterman.
Underworld
Blacklabel
No, they don't. Musk did enormous damage to the US and it's institutions. He's responsible for 300,000 deaths for illegally dismantling USAID.
Blacklabel
“The Dems, we've been dumping all over Musk and vandalizing Teslas or whatever, and now, suddenly, we might be more back into him”
Ro Khanna - who represents parts of Silicon Valley and has known Musk for decades - is of the mind that his party would benefit from brining the billionaire back into the party's fold.”
lol flippy floppy on Musky.
JboneInTheZone
Can you name a single elected Democrat that supported those actions? I can’t and neither can you
Underworld
Blacklabel
The funny thing is that Democrats aren't saying the are back into Musk at all.
bass4funk
I just explained it
Again, with the visceral hate they had for Trump, if they knew it would have stopped or had an impact on the election they would have used that card, they wanted Kamala in, not Trump.
12 years of Trump derangement says otherwise
The Presidency, everyone on the left.
And he still got in office, it didn’t stop him so, beg to differ
Yawn, and it still didn’t stop him from getting back into the Oval Office.
Ok, so what?? He’s in office now, so no one is talking about this but you.
Again, if there were, we would have known about it 3 years ago.
I get it, you’re bored and want to argue, but as much as I despise the Dems, they’re not stupid, would never give up power without a fight, ever and if they can nail Trump to a cross, they will do that without batting an eyelash. Arguing with me won’t change the fact that Trump is the President
Blacklabel
or I could just support him when he says something I like that’s convenient to my point?
Peppermint
Trump’s been deranged for far longer than 12 years. That says a lot.
chotto_2
The contortions that MAGA-cultists must be going through....
Blacklabel
John Fetterman (D-PA) made this comment.
Ro Khanna (D-CA) confirmed Dems want him back.
Underworld
bass4funk
Nobody was trying to stop him getting into office.
So you agree that Democrats wouldn't release sensitive Epstein files to stop Trump becoming president.
bass4funk
Go ahead, the videos, evidence and indictment say otherwise
You can do that, I will go with the indictments.
theFu
I hope Musk spends $10B on advertising to stop the Big Beautiful Boondoggle. This way, sanity in Congress might return and Trump will be impotent going forward and every Trump supporter in an elected office will be gone ASAP.
I look forward to the day when truth is actually what the US govt tells the people it represents, not lies.
Bob Fosse
The current administration are not serious about fraud. The President is a 34 time felon. Sends the wrong message.
John-San
These posts are a perfect example of denial by a fascist ideology, name calling refusal of the truth and fact.
facts. Trump was great friends of Epstein for 15 year. Videos of Trump at Epstein Parties of Trump touching up young girls and showing Trump awful dance style LOL.
Fact. Admitted that Epstein " likes them young" and after witnessing this did not report it to the police. Not reporting classes Trump as a enabler. Which just as guilty.
Fact.: Sort Epstein advice on business and on tax avoidance.
Fact. Has not release the Epstein file which he able to do being the President.
Fact. Epstein died on his watch. Trump had the cause and motive and the power to silence Epstein.
Yrral
Bass4, Trump is a convicted felon
bass4funk
Touching is not a crime, especially if it is consensual.
Wrong. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html
That was Musk in fact, that is true.
The Dems had them for 4 years, they could have released them and they didn't
Gee, that is a very serious allegation, now why did not one Democrat make it or even better, why didn't the Dems prove that theory when they took office? They had 4 years to prove that theory.
wallace
White House of Cards. Trump has had enough and flew Air Force One to his NJ club for a weekend of golf away from reporters and cameras.
funkymofo
When two narcissists fall out of love….
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 08:45 am JST
That means it's not a crime either if it isn't consensual. Is that what you're saying?
John-San
Lol you can deny all you like, still makes Trump look like a children molestor. If look like, taste like, it Musk be. LOL. Trump and his family will have to carry this around for long long time.
Tokyo Guy
The Propaganda Wing of the White House would like it to be known that there is no rift or enmity whatsoever between Mr. Musk and the President. They are as tight as two peas in a pod, they are in absolute agreement on everything, and any suggestion to the contrary is treasonous. Thank you for your attention and you have a nice day, now.
bass4funk
I am saying, where and what crime? Do you know who the person was? What relationship did they have, if any. Was she a minor? If so, where is the proof? Was she with someone else? How do you know she was with Trump for sure? Given the fact that Trump knowing what Epstein was and that he had a lot to lose given his empire, why would he risk it all? Kicking him out of Maralago for inappropriately touching a woman pretty much says it all, but again, the Dems had years to prove these crazy accusations and they came out with nothing.
bass4funk
I don't need to deny, he's not in prison, Esptein was, so that kinda clears that one up. Not to mention the 4 years the Trump-hating Democrats had all the time in the world and they found absolutely nothing.
If people thought that they would have never voted for him, I sure as heck wouldn't have.
Ok, and?
Tokyo Guy
I am saying, where and what crime? Do you know who the person was? What relationship did they have, if any. Was she a minor? If so, where is the proof? Was she with someone else? How do you know she was with Trump for sure? Given the fact that Trump knowing what Epstein was and that he had a lot to lose given his empire, why would he risk it all? Kicking him out of Maralago for inappropriately touching a woman pretty much says it all, but again, the Dems had years to prove these crazy accusations and they came out with nothing.
So if he's innocent, why do you have to spend so much of your life trying to defend him? I don't think he actually reads this site. Well, I don't think he actually reads, period.
If he's that important to you, I suggest creating a cult based around him. Oh, hang on, there is one already and anyone can become a member.
funkymofo
You know what would clear all this up? Pam Bondi releasing the Epstein files. Can’t imagine why that hasn’t happened.
bass4funk
So why didn't Biden release them? They had enough time to do it, I am not blaming either, I think there are a lot of people globally left, right, all nations and releasing them could hurt a lot of people in National Security, domestically and abroad.
stormcrow
Well, it looks like the honeymoon is over. For all the self inflicted damage Musk has done to himself and all of the hundreds of millions he’s given Trump, it looks like Trump 1 . . . Musk 0.
wallace
Musk says Trump is in the secret Epstein files.
Elon Musk claimed that “the real reason” the remaining files have not been made public is that Trump appears in them.
bass4funk
You answered your own question
funkymofo
Stop deflecting, Bondi can release them today.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 08:59 am JST
I just asked you to clarify your comment about touching not being a crime. I said nothing about what Trump had been doing. I honestly can't be bothered to read any of the rest of your essay but I gather you realised you've written something especially stupid and decided to change the subject. In any case further discussion with you about it is a waste of time.
max-velocity
MAGA in overdrive trying to dismiss the seriousness of Trump-Musk bromance breakdown. A very public spat.
mountainpear
We all knew this wasn't going to last!
wallace
Will Trump be returning the two Teslas he bought for himself and his granddaughter? Trump cancelled the tax credits for EVs.
Try as they may with MAGA, but this article has nothing to do with the democrats.
Tokyo Guy
And to your point, you are showing us all again why the Democrats lost everything, spot on!
Hey, losing "everything" could be a blessing in disguise.
Once the US finally gets fed up with Trump (and at some point there has to be the final straw even for a country of people who seem to be apathetic no matter how much they get shafted), the republicans are going to be unelectable for decades. The MAGA cult won't live forever, and unless they can all indoctrinate their spawn with the same ignorance and hate, the voting base for the GOP will just shrink and shrink.
Short term loss for long term gain.
itsonlyrocknroll
Elon Musk opens up on how Asperger's has impacted his life
https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome
In his opening monologue, Musk said: "To anyone who I’ve offended [with my Twitter posts], I just want to say I reinvented electric cars, and I'm sending people to Mars in a rocket ship. Did you think I was also going to be a chill, normal dude?"
This is a rather tragic "six of one, half a dozen of the other", toe curlingly all on public display
Stop the nonsence.
Yrral
A gilded tower,a rocket flight,Two titans clashing in the night,Their bond ,once forged in brazen dreams Shattered,now fueling darker scheme ,A ledger whispers,names concealed ,A pact broken,truth reveal,The island shadows rise a new,As Trump and Musk bid each other adieu ,And Epstein secret break through
u_s__reamer
Musk is for impeachment. The Epstein Files alone would confirm the felon's unworthiness to sit grinning behind the "Resolute Desk".
yakyak
Its all a smoke screen people, get with the program......
Peter Neil
He got rid of the Resolute Desk after Musk’s kid picked his nose and wiped it on Trump’s desk. The kid looked right at Trump as he did it. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
TokyoLiving
Trump is a senile, dysfunctional, decadent narcissistic clown...
How many drugs must they give him to make him act in a manner acceptable to his fans?..
TRUMP IS THE NEW BIDEN!!!...
bass4funk
Trump won't be impeached, the Dems need to retake the House, and with their internal problems happening, don't see that happening.
Peter Neil
The interview with Trump where he was asked about releasing all of the JFK files was great TV. He immediately said he would. He hasn’t but, anyway.
Then the interviewer asks if he’d release all of the Epstein files. Trump looks away, stalls and says he would probably do that…
Anyway, watching two teenagers going at it is tedious. Just have a fight after school and get it over with.
lincolnman
More MAGA comedy gold....the MAGA King and MAGA Prince knife and slice each other to ribbons....ROFL...
And once again proves the go-to insult in MAGA-world of a fellow MAGA member is to accuse them of being a pedophile...just like Trump accused DeSantis of...
Which just goes to show you where their mind resides...in the MAGA cesspool...
browny1
In the public domain there is already tons of evidence connecting Trump to Epstein including photos, videos, phone logs, flight logs, personal accounts, dropped court case, property purchases etc etc.
Epstein died under Trump's watch. Many irregularities in his time in jail, not the least being he was on suicide watch ( and not watched) and his cellmate was transferred and not replaced as required, conveniently leaving him alone. Coroners report was not absolute - circumstantial in many aspects.
But not going down any conspiracy rabbit hole - there is plenty of stuff aligning Trump and Epstein.
Why the files not released? Maybe also some incriminating evidence against others like Clinton etc.
Trump's proven sexual deviant history makes him the perfect buddy for Epstein. Pretty sure as Musk blurted - there's a bomb out there waiting to be dropped.
Funnier and Funnier.
Five Families
Strike two for me with Trump. I gave him another vote, hoping things would get better—but here we are. We're still not in a better place than we were with Biden. Inflation is stubbornly high, interest rates are squeezing everyone, and the social divide feels worse than ever. Now we’ve got a public feud with Elon Musk added to the chaos.
Enough already. It's time to bring back competent leadership—leadership that knows how to govern, not grandstand. We need to put an end to these constant extremes and the exhausting culture wars.
Republicans and Democrats need to lock themselves in a room, stay there, and not come out until they’ve figured out how to actually restore this country—not just fight about it on TV Media and in the public.
bass4funk
Yup, so until facts are made, DNA is established, I will call pure BS and nothing more.
I did
No, I didn't.
I feel the same.
Fountain
“If they had validity and were steeped in truth and not just based on lib hate, it might.”
I repeat, Trump was found guilty of sexual assault by a jury. That seems pretty valid to me.
bass4funk
He still won, so that means people didn't buy the BS. Sorry, live with it. Had he not won, I would not argue, but seeing him in the WH now....seems validating to me.
lincolnman
How many posts defending Musk over the past six months have we seen here from our MAGA-friends - it has to be in the hundreds...
They told us "Musk is a true MAGA-hero unfairly slandered as a Neo-Nazi, autistic, drug addict by the "Libs" - he is none of these. He is a proud supporter of President Trump and our MAGA values. His efforts at DOGE has yielded millions in cost savings. He is an American patriot!"
Then as everyone outside the cult knew would happen, we get the "messy divorce"...
And what do they say now?
"Deport the illegal alien! He was a leftist plant from the beginning! We don't want the "evil Neo-Nazi!"....
Can we all say "flippity-floppity"?
Cephus
A divine sent small loyalty test and how can we fair so miserably? Mind you loyalty it's not only between people but also an institution and it's people. I'm just very disappointed.
Fountain
“Yup, so until facts are made, DNA is established, I will call pure BS and nothing more.”
more like:
If it makes me look bad and/or foolish, I will call pure BS and nothing more.
nandakandamanda
A couple of days back I watched one of the videos of a much younger Trump loving it all at an Epstein party. They were even told they were on camera.
It struck me that one or more of those women would probably need to come forward and lay charges, but I can imagine it would be a massive hassle and challenge for them to do so now.
bass4funk
Not me, wrong person
Yup
Fountain
“Not me, wrong person”
immature child. What a pathetic response.
bass4funk
Speak for yourself please
XCAndtheband
LOOOOOL
Omg seeing all this burning down is too good. Grab the popcorn, everyone! Let MAGA tear themselves apart!
Fountain
“Speak for yourself please”
A child of 7 could put up a better defence of themselves.
John-San
Trump should be very worried but is so dumb and the dumb rear ender team surrounding that Musk own XAI. I can imagine Musk has his AI company working overtime creating video of Trump and Epstein molesting children videos. I assume musk could release these creations and backing it up with. While I was head of DOGE I had my team investigate and find ( Hacking ) the Epstein file exposing Trump as a child sex predator. It as clear as day dumb Trump really did not think through of Musk reacting and the ability of the depth of his action can causes.
factchecker
It takes a brainess idiot to know one.
bass4funk
I see
Oh, boy…sigh, worried about what?
You really think deeply about these things, huh? Yeah, Musk makes deepfakes? Well, he is not immune from prosecution.
I think it’s the other way around, I love Musk, but at the end of the day, I support the most powerful man on the planet and not the most powerful entrepreneur in world.
lincolnman
You love a guy that Trump has said has "lost his mind"? That has called Trump's bill a "disgusting abomination"? That has sworn to primary and defeat all the MAGA Repubs that vote for the bill? And then accused Trump of being a pedo?
That sure sounds like a "Lib" to me...
XCAndtheband
At the end of the day, that’s the problem hahaha. You unfailingly fall in line with whatever convict Donald Trump says.
You’ll “fight fight fight” for him while he doesn’t care about you or anyone else. You’ll fight against his “monster of the week” without thinking for yourself and actually trying to make things better for yourself and your fellow man. Not standing by any principles or ideals, just, following a single man.
You’re totally within your rights to do that, but expect to be rightfully called out on it.
Lol! Too funny.
XCAndtheband
That’s all MAGA is. Following a cult of personality. No thinking, just fall in line.
Fountain
Yes XC,
You have just described how a cult works, in this case the MAGA cult, absolutely perfectly.
Cephus
Sincerely, I never thought in my life time I will see such pettiness, people cheering disagreements.
bass4funk
No, not all
You’re think that, I think differently.
If that were true I would have voted Democrat
Of course I am within my rights to vote and support anyone I want and vote how I please, to even make that statement is seriously odd and you guys on the left want to call me out, I’ll do the same to the left and that’s ok dissenting is healthy, it’s something sadly the left hate.
bass4funk
If that were true they wouldn’t be fighting the way they are now.
XCAndtheband
This sums up all of MAGA’s defense when called out.
“Nuh-uh!!”
LOOOOOOL
lincolnman
So, who do you believe?
Is it true as Musk has said that Trump's bill is a "disgusting abomination" and that Trump is in the "Epstein files"?
Or is it true that Musk has "lost his mind" as Trump has said?
Someone here is lying - so who is it?
Yarnaby
This difference of opinions doesn’t seem to be going down very well in the group that accepts difference of opinions.
ClippetyClop
Well I didn’t think we’d see people elect a criminal who then hired a hyper rich drug addled Nazi wannabe to fire the people who elected him.
Strange times huh. But great entertainment.
ian
It's not one or the other
lincolnman
So both speak truth? Or both are liars?
May want to think that dodge through and try again...
JJE
Let's call a spade a spade.
Dems turned on Musk when he joined with Trump after the Pennsylvania shooting.
Elements of MAGA-verse are cold shouldering him now.
Bannon is the exception here - he has been outspoken against Musk from the get-go.
ian
Dodge haha
Only an idiot thinks it's one or the other
ian
You yourself mentioned some other possibilities
nandakandamanda
Musk could get kicked out back to South Africa, but then be allowed back in again through the new Afrikaner asylum loophole.
Fountain
“If that were true they wouldn’t be fighting the way they are now.”
Are you suggesting there is in-fighting amongst the MAGA crowd, of which you are one?
I haven’t noticed that. You guys just seem to stick together, following whatever path your Dear Leader shows you.
USAFdude
Yet Musk is the one Krasnov entrusted to steal Americans' Social Security information. SMDH.
Roll on November 2026, when the Americans take back the United States of America from the Nazi Republicans!
wallace
Laughing stock of the world.
Fountain
“Enough already. It's time to bring back competent leadership—leadership that knows how to govern, not grandstand.”
@ Five Families
If this is what you want, why did you vote for Trump to become president?
bass4funk
Proud of it
lincolnman
Simple question, why do you keep running away from it?
Either Trump is telling the truth when he says Musk has "lost his mind" or he is lying...
Same for Musk - it's either true that Trump is in the Epstein files, or that is a lie...
So, who is telling the truth and who is lying about the other...
Show some MAGA courage and tell us...
bass4funk
How??? What policies and platforms do Democrats have? Opposing Trump? Raising taxes? Instituting trans rights again? First get a real leader, move to the center stop the entitlement culture, stop talking about Trump, stop demonizing the rich and you just might and I say, MIGHT have slight chance of winning, tall order for the Dems to fulfill.
Peppermint
Who?
Fountain
“Proud of it”
You are proud of your country being the laughing stock of the world?
What a bizarre comment.
You really will just say anything to try and get the last word.
JJE
A link is out there circulating to a SM post by a lawyer who represented Epstein. Says he categorically asked him if he had dirt on Trump and got an unequivocal reply in the negative.
Fountain
A few questions you haven’t answered yet bass.
Including my one on whether there is in-fighting within the MAGA crowd, as you claim there is.
bass4funk
I’m an American Nationalist, I really don’t care what the world thinks of us.
Not at all, I’m not a globalist.
I can say the same about you, but if you don’t like it, don’t make it personal, quite simple really
Peter Neil
And they say women are too emotional...
bass4funk
Maybe a little, it’s ok, we are a democracy, and we are so if there is dissent, good, at least this is the worst as it should and people should air out their differencesand talk it out
lincolnman
Well, it looks like with a lot of help from that guy you "love" - Elon Musk who has said he'll work to defeat any Repub that votes for Trump's "abomination" bill...
Interesting you love a guy that is working to defeat your own team...
Fountain
“Maybe a little, it’s ok, we are a democracy, and we are so if there is dissent, good, at least this is the worst as it should and people should air out their differencesand talk it out”
Cracks beginning to show…..
wallace
Patriotism good.
Nationalism bad.
bass4funk
Ok, I laughed, but I’m serious now, how will the Dems win, Musk is not going to go back to that, if they think that then they might as well just hang on the towel right now.
He’s not.
John-San
LOL , how sweet this is. Elon will be welcome with open arm by Israel, LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL, I can stop laughing this is pure gold watching this fascist ideology smash and burn. You really do know how your government works Bass, Prosecute Musk while having the Jewish toddy on his side their biggest and most important donor. LOL LOL LOL. Yeah nah your decade of delusion is get smashed and will soon end.
Jind
Two toddlers elected by a bunch of Maga toddlers fighting for their toys.
But we all know, our toddlers behaved much better.