Trump officials defend use of wartime law to deport migrants

"It's modern-day warfare, and we are going to continue to fight that and protect American citizens every single step of the way," Attorney General Pam Bondi told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo on the "Sunday Morning Futures" program.

No, it's not a war. Whatever your language, nobody has declared war and so you can not use this law.

Of course, Bondi knows this but she's an autocrat sucking up to her autocrat boss.

Flyover MAGAs are fine trashing the international reputation of the US because they could never afford experiencing other countries anyways.

Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, said on Friday, however, that none of the Venezuelans deported by the U.S. to El Salvador were members of the gang, which Washington has declared a terrorist group. Relatives and immigration advocates for some of the men have also denied any links.

And that's what happens when you don't go through due process in making sure you're arresting real gang members and criminals. In fact, many of these alleged criminals never had any criminal records.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/noncitizens-deported-alien-enemies-act-criminal-records-ice/story?id=119912375

Some reports even has some that were legal immigrants who were only arrested because they were spotted with a tattoo. It seems that if you look Hispanic and have a tattoo, then you're automatically profiled as an illegal gang member.

The stupid thing with all of this, is that of course, the people that they are rounding up are the ones who tend to be legal and without criminal records because those are the ones that tend to not go into hiding. Common sense dictates that the real illegals are the ones keeping themselves well-hidden. Ones being caught thought they had nothing to fear because they had no prior criminal records and have legal status. Common sense.

Trump has a criminal record

Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, said on Friday, however, that none of the Venezuelans deported by the U.S. to El Salvador were members of the gang, which Washington has declared a terrorist group. Relatives and immigration advocates for some of the men have also denied any links.

To the surprise of absolutely nobody. But of course Trump otakus will claim this is all lies and these men are all bloodthirsty murderers and rapists, just because... they're immigrants.

And that's what happens when you don't go through due process in making sure you're arresting real gang members and criminals. In fact, many of these alleged criminals never had any criminal records.

Biden didn’t go through the process of vetting any illegals when they were being shuffled into the country

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/22/us/politics/irs-ice-immigrants-deportation.html

This should make it even simpler to find them

Some reports even has some that were legal immigrants who were only arrested because they were spotted with a tattoo. It seems that if you look Hispanic and have a tattoo, then you're automatically profiled as an illegal gang member. 

Yes, they can and should detain them and if they are associated with any gang or have any connection or affiliation, they should be deported

The stupid thing with all of this, is that of course, the people that they are rounding up are the ones who tend to be legal

According to whom??? You are assuming now

and without criminal records because those are the ones that tend to not go into hiding. Common sense dictates that the real illegals are the ones keeping themselves well-hidden.

Not always, if the U.S. can find child molesters and deadbeat fathers and tax cheats, finding hiding illegals is not that complex, that’s common sense

Bondi said the Trump administration's decision to deport 137 Venezuelan migrants last weekend to El Salvador was justified because they were members of Venezuela's feared Tren de Aragua gang and posed a safety risk.

So why can't you give them due process? That option is available. Is it because the public would find out that they don't actually have criminal records and your fear-mongering on immigrants is made up.

"This is an out-of-control judge, a federal judge trying to control our entire foreign policy," she said.

Out of your control, yes, Pam. But he is standing up for the core American value of due process.

Pam Bondi is standing up for fascism.

if they are associated with any gang or have any connection or affiliation, they should be deported

That’s for courts to decide. The DOJ is refusing to show evidence that these deportees are gang members or violent criminals. Most likely because they don’t have any evidence, or that the evidence is insufficient to deport these people legally.

The Trump regime is dismantling due process.

Boasberg was appointed by G.W. Bush and has ruled in Trump’s favor more than once. No one with a brain or a shred of honesty would call him a radical leftist activist judge.

So why can't you give them due process? That option is available.

So you only care about due process for deportation now because Trump is President?

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And that's what happens when you don't go through due process in making sure you're arresting real gang members and criminals. In fact, many of these alleged criminals never had any criminal records.

Biden didn’t go through the process of vetting any illegals when they were being shuffled into the country

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/22/us/politics/irs-ice-immigrants-deportation.html

This should make it even simpler to find them

Yes, but they would have due process and access to the law. They wouldn't be thrown in prison, in a different country, without a trial.

This is nowhere close to equivalent.

Some reports even has some that were legal immigrants who were only arrested because they were spotted with a tattoo. It seems that if you look Hispanic and have a tattoo, then you're automatically profiled as an illegal gang member. 

Yes, they can and should detain them and if they are associated with any gang or have any connection or affiliation, they should be deported

They aren't just deported but imprisoned. How can you tell if they are in a gang without a trial. You can't. They got an innocent soccer player because they mistook the tattoo.

The stupid thing with all of this, is that of course, the people that they are rounding up are the ones who tend to be legal

According to whom??? You are assuming now

So are you. Without a trial, you don't know.

NOMINATION

So why can't you give them due process? That option is available.

So you only care about due process for deportation now because Trump is President?

Nope. When anyone is president. But it's only Trump who is denying it.

And we aren't merely talking about deportation, which can happen on entry if you don't have documentation.

We are talking about people in the US who aren't being charged for a crime, but being sent to a hard labor prison in another country.

This is fascism, folks.

Judge has already had enough of Trump incompetent,he getting ready to mead out legal punishment against those who defy his orders

Yes, but they would have due process and access to the law. They wouldn't be thrown in prison, in a different country, without a trial.

Then don't come illegally

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/33-senators-join-chorus-voices-condemning

That's why he did it quietly

They aren't just deported but imprisoned.

And your problem?

So are you. Without a trial, you don't know.

I'm not assuming anything, I just have zero sympathies for people entering the country illegally, once you do that, all bets are off and it's on you, I am just glad once the SC will put a nail in these activist judges' agenda, in the meantime,

Bass4,the SC has no credibility

Boasberg was appointed by G.W. Bush and has ruled in Trump’s favor more than once. No one with a brain or a shred of honesty would call him a radical leftist activist judge.

I always saw Bush as Democrat-lite when it came to immigration, always.

That’s for courts to decide.

Not for long, they won't stop the DOJ or Homan

The DOJ is refusing to show evidence that these deportees are gang members or violent criminals. Most likely because they don’t have any evidence, or that the evidence is insufficient to deport these people legally. 

They don't need to

The Trump regime is dismantling due process.

Biden and Myorkas started it, no one told them to let in millions of illgals and shipping them (at least trying to, to red states under the cover of darkness) Even Eric Adams is saying what the former admin did was illegal and unsustainable, now if California wants to keep these illegals, good for them, the rest of the country doesnt want them and by the way.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/19/mexicos-cartels-boxed-trumps-success-border/

Love this guy!

Yes, they can and should detain them and if they are associated with any gang or have any connection or affiliation, they should be deported

But you'll only know if they are actual criminals if they are properly investigated and presented with real evidence. And remember this, having a Constitution with laws, and courts, and due process, helps everyone; not just immigrants. Heaven forbid if you or someone you know is wrongfully profiled, incarcerated, and threatened to be deported. Knowing that there are actual laws in your country that will allow you to plead your case before a court to prove your innocence is what democracy is all about. Trump is slowly taking away those laws and protection for innocent people. He is slowly taking away what is written down in the Constitution to protect Americans' rights.

> Not always, if the U.S. can find child molesters and deadbeat fathers and tax cheats, finding hiding illegals is not that complex, that’s common sense

If it was so easy to find every fugitive, why is there a long list of those who have never gotten caught on the FBI's most wanted? There is even a larger number of fugitives who were caught, but only after being on the run for years. And, it's common sense that it's easier to find documented immigrants than undocumented ones. Documented ones have easier to follow paper trails. Duh?

Bottom line is it's wrong to go around and claim someone belongs to a gang just because they have a tattoo. It's wrong to profile a dark-skinned person who looks Hispanic as being illegal. Yet, this is what Trump and everyone associated with him does. By claiming all Haitians are eating people's pets, to all Mexicans are rapists and murderers, Trump's rhetoric is racist and hateful and only incited violence against certain ethnic groups. Not all Venezuelans or Ecuadoreans belong to a gang. Yet, his stupid MAGA followers think so.

--That’s for courts to decide. 

Not for long, they won't stop the DOJ or Homan

Disregarding a court order is illegal. You are endorsing fascism.

--they don’t have any evidence, or that the evidence is insufficient to deport these people legally. 

They don't need to

Yes, they do need to. Otherwise what's to prevent a president from sending anyone to El Salvador? Trump declaring someone a terrorist, violent criminal, or "alien enemy" is not sufficient. Especially with his record of lying.

--They wouldn't be thrown in prison, in a different country, without a trial.

Then don't come illegally

That's no defense for suspension of due process.

I don't really care if they throw the trashy gang bangers out. I just hope they haven't accidentally netted an innocent migrant worker or two and condemned them to a life in a hellish El Salvadoran prison.

But you'll only know if they are actual criminals if they are properly investigated and presented with real evidence.

But when libs were letting illegals in, they didn't vet any of them. This is why we are in this mess, you can make any excuses you want; the last admin made this mess, and I have zero sympathy for these people. I voted for this.

And remember this, having a Constitution with laws, and courts, and due process, helps everyone; not just immigrants.

Now liberals care about the Constitution but told Conservatives for 4 years to be quiet and just accept it, yeah, ok.

Well, now libs have to accept it, they can challenge and take this President to court all day long, in the meantime, the DOJ will continue its mission. Already over 600 illegals were deported these last few days alone.

If it was so easy to find every fugitive, why is there a long list of those who have never gotten caught on the FBI's most wanted? There is even a larger number of fugitives who were caught, but only after being on the run for years. And, it's common sense that it's easier to find documented immigrants than undocumented ones. Documented ones have easier to follow paper trails. Duh?

Again, finding ILLEGALS is not that hard. Remember, we also have enough bounty hunters whose job is to find the most difficult people, so all resources are being used.

Bottom line is it's wrong to go around and claim someone belongs to a gang just because they have a tattoo.

Yes, but it is also wrong to be in any country illegally, start from there.

bass4funk

And remember this, having a Constitution with laws, and courts, and due process, helps everyone; not just immigrants.

Now liberals care about the Constitution

They always have.

but told Conservatives for 4 years to be quiet and just accept it, yeah, ok.

Not at all. Conservatives had access to the courts to have their cases heard.

Well, now libs have to accept it, they can challenge and take this President to court all day long, in the meantime, the DOJ will continue its mission.

It's not about libs have to accepting it. This applies to all Americans. Trump is effectively removing their access to the law.

Bottom line is it's wrong to go around and claim someone belongs to a gang just because they have a tattoo.

Yes, but it is also wrong to be in any country illegally, start from there.

Some are here legally pursuing asylum claims. And if they were just deported, that's one thing. But these people are being sent to jail, in another country, without even a trial.

This is fascism.

“Trump officials defend use of wartime law to deport migrants”

“migrants”? Playing the game until the very end.

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“Trump officials defend use of wartime law to deport migrants”

“wartime”? Playing the game until the very end.

Yes we have declared war on violent illegal gangs.

like the “war” on drugs, right?

600 do not equate to to billion

Judges also block the ones who are convicted criminals who have deportation orders after having “due process” too.

its just judicial activism. Liberals love their illegals.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/federal-judge-orders-ice-not-remove-immigration-activist-jeanette-vizguerra/

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Yes we have declared war on violent illegal gangs.

like the “war” on drugs, right?

I agree that you can use that word figuratively. But the US hasn't declared a war, so a wartime law can't be used.

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Judges also block the ones who are convicted criminals who have deportation orders after having “due process” too.

its just judicial activism. Liberals love their illegals.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/federal-judge-orders-ice-not-remove-immigration-activist-jeanette-vizguerra/

What part of "No lawful removal order exists" is "due process"?:

Vizguerra's attorneys have also filed a petition with the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals, arguing that ICE has never presented their client with a valid order for removal from the US.  

"No lawful removal order exists, and ICE would have known this for years. If ICE proceeds with trying to remove her without legal authority, it sends a chilling message about the agency's disregard for due process and the rule of law," said Vizguerra's lawyer Laura Lichter.

Some are here legally pursuing asylum claims. And if they were just deported, that's one thing. But these people are being sent to jail, in another country, without even a trial.

This is fascism.

Excellent point. We should be rewarding those who are seeking legal paths to being a legal immigrant. While they may not be legal now, at least they have declared themselves and have filed the paperwork to be legally here. By imprisoning them, even if they have no criminal record, and then sending them back to a prison in their own country is illegal and unethical. It just breeds distrust, not only among those immigrants, but anyone associated with them from family, friends, coworkers, etc.

Bottom line: Go after the criminals and illegal ones. Stop deporting the legal immigrants.

You missed the hidden trick:

“No lawful removal order exists”

meaning they don’t accept the outcome of the due process given and don’t respect our laws and courts.

Now time to play the foreign born federal judge blocks it game.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/former-denver-ice-official-immigrant-rights-activist-jeanette-vizguerra/

Countdown, 5,4,3,2,1 to why an illegal alien from the 90’s forging documents to steal and use someone else’s security ever since then brings value to America. Isn’t “really” a crime….right.

“Ordered to be deported under the Obama administration” yet still here why?

“The rap sheets for those removed included aggravated assault, robbery, kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, prostitution, and aggravated assault of a police officer.”

that’s just some of what you are supporting.

Sure sounds like they got “due process” if we know the crimes.

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“The rap sheets for those removed included aggravated assault, robbery, kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, prostitution, and aggravated assault of a police officer.”

Police officers don't determine guilt. Judges and Juries do.

Sure sounds like they got “due process” if we know the crimes.

Nope. They didn't. I know the names of many crimes, doesn't mean I committed them.

This is fascism.

It's all just MAGA-theater....to distract from the gutting of Social Security, Medicaid, and all the other programs that ordinary Americans, to include MAGA voters, rely on...

Trump is going to privatize them all so his globalist fat-cat Wall St and tech oligarch buds can further fleece the middle class...it's already started with Musk-owned companies getting huge contracts like the one at the FAA...

The transfer of wealth from the middle class to the ultra-rich will surge - and those formerly in the middle class will be flat broke - to include lots of MAGA-voters...

Maybe once they enter bankruptcy they'll realise Trump has played them for fools...on the other hand maybe not...

“The rap sheets for those removed included aggravated assault, robbery, kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, prostitution, and aggravated assault of a police officer.”

Thanks for the excerpt from a Trump admin job application...any and all required for consideration...

The only one you forgot was a minimum 34 felony convictions for business fraud...

Unserious people. Dying on the hill of deep throated support for violent illegal aliens committing crimes against Americans.

no wonder liberals lost the election.

This is fascism.

It's what our MAGA friends wanted and what they're celebrating.

Venezuela's interior minister, Diosdado Cabello, said on Friday, however, that none of the Venezuelans deported by the U.S. to El Salvador were members of the gang, which Washington has declared a terrorist group. Relatives and immigration advocates for some of the men have also denied any links.

And that's what happens when you don't go through due process in making sure you're arresting real gang members and criminals.

It is wonderful to see this sudden trust in the words of Maduro government. Not so very long ago we were told by the previous administration this very same Maduro dictator was a very bad and untrustworthy lying character that should be disposed of. Now we are suddenly supposed to believe and take him at his word.. Magical.

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Unserious people. Dying on the hill of deep throated support for violent illegal aliens committing crimes against Americans.

Not at all. Support for 'due process'. If they are guilty, send them to prison.

Without 'due process' America is just another authoritarian state.

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It is wonderful to see this sudden trust in the words of Maduro government. Not so very long ago we were told by the previous administration this very same Maduro dictator was a very bad and untrustworthy lying character that should be disposed of. Now we are suddenly supposed to believe and take him at his word.. Magical.

Can you prove him wrong? We don't know if Maduro is telling the truth, but we don't know if he is lying either.

We would know if these people were tried in US courts.

That's the point.

It's what our MAGA friends wanted and what they're celebrating.

Removing criminal illegal aliens? Absolutely what we voted for, why didn’t you?

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It's what our MAGA friends wanted and what they're celebrating.

Removing criminal illegal aliens? Absolutely what we voted for, why didn’t you?

No. Fascism.

We would know if these people were tried in US courts.

how would you know? Who would tell you, one by one?

They always have.

The voters didn't think so, so much so that they lost everything

Not at all. Conservatives had access to the courts to have their cases heard.

In front of liberal activists judges, they did, but the people saw through that and as a result, they fired the Democrats. 

It's not about libs have to accepting it. This applies to all Americans.

Wow, for the last 4 years the left was silent and now they make a big spectacle.

Some are here legally pursuing asylum claims.

Then they need to wait patiently while this admin sorts through all this, they have time, and so do we.

And if they were just deported, that's one thing. But these people are being sent to jail, in another country, without even a trial.

I really don't care.

This is fascism.

We felt like that when they left jailed fellow Americans without due process 4 years ago, not a single word. Again, don't want any problems, don't come in legally, they did, they have to deal with the consequences, the left doesn't like it, then they don't

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/noem-visit-el-salvador-prison-took-hundred-deported-criminals-clear-message

I don't think she cares, either. But look, if the Dems want to further dwindle their party to irrelevancy, so be it.

How is a country that isn’t even yours simply removing violent criminal illegal aliens= fascism?

are you sure you aren’t just screaming out random unrelated words?

It's what our MAGA friends wanted and what they're celebrating.

Removing criminal illegal aliens? Absolutely what we voted for, why didn’t you?

Hmmmm.....

"Anti-immigrant immigrant billionaire Elon Musk illegally lived and worked in the United States while founding his first American business venture. Musk planned to enroll in a Stanford University PhD program to obtain a student visa while cofounding tech company Zip2, but dropped out days before classes began. Legal experts told the paper that the move invalidated his right to work in the country.

The Tesla chief executive previously characterized his visa status during the period as a “gray area,” while his brother Kimbal Musk described him and Elon as “illegal immigrants” in 2013."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-immigrant-crusader-musk-illegally-160923191.html

Butwhattabout! Lol

changes nothing as it relates to the violent criminals discussed here being deported.

changes nothing as it relates to the violent criminals

What's discussed here is migrants being deported, not "violent criminals". There's no proof anywhere yet they are "violent criminals". You keep calling them "violent criminals" (because you're xeonopbohic), but that doesn't make it true.

Simply being in the county illegally isn’t a crime, right?

except for Elon? lol

There's no proof anywhere yet they are "violent criminals". 

ICE announced so. Our government:

The rap sheets for those removed included aggravated assault, robbery, kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, prostitution, and aggravated assault of a police officer.”

Is out government lying?

changes nothing as it relates to the violent criminals discussed here being deported.

Quite the contrary - it proves what we see here with their posts every day - MAGA-fans are a bunch of hypocrites...

In your post you clearly said "criminal illegal immigrants" - which by fraudulently using his student visa to enter the US, then remaining here after the visa had lapsed is clearly "criminal" and "illegal"...

Why aren't you calling for his deportation?

What's discussed here is migrants being deported, not "violent criminals".

They came in illegally, did they not?

'There's no proof anywhere yet they are "violent criminals." You keep calling them "violent criminals" (because you're xenophobic), but that doesn't make it true.

But they came in illegally though....

That means, they broke the law.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/backstories/1457/

You missed the “violent” part.

Even your side says simply being here illegally is totally fine. that’s the foundation of your whole leftist policy. It’s not a crime! No person is “illegal”!

So Elon can stay too.

Unless your side is being hypocrites?

There is no fascism in the US. That is pure sensationalist hyperbole.

Claiming the authority to use a wartime power when there is no war to justify its use is, to me, a blatantly obvious abuse of power and illegal. The US and Venezuela are not at war. The Venezuelan armed forces are not invading the US. At least when FDR mis-used the act to imprison all Japanese Americans on the west coast there was an actual declared war against Japan. This, cough cough, "president" can't even make that claim. He just wants to do what he wants to do and laws be damned, everyone else just STFU.

But they came in illegally though....

That means, they broke the law.

It is a civil violation, not a criminal violation, to be in the US without a valid VISA or immigration documents.

There are laws governing how to deal with this. This President is choosing to ignore those laws, which is illegal to do. The laws guarantee due process to those charged with breaking immigration laws. That is to prevent US citizens and legal US residents from being imprisoned or worse, deported. The chimps that Jupiter has running the sh!t-show are arresting people who are not here illegally and who are not in any kind of gang based on a tattoo they don't even understand. They see an Hispanic with a tattoo and immediately assume they are a gang member to be deported. That due process Jupiter cannot be bothered with is there to prevent such miscarriages of justice.

Let me tell you something that the right needs to consider, something James Madison pointed out in a court room defense of a client long before he became the US President. When being innocent is no longer a guarantee you won't be arrested and sent to prison then even honest citizens will feel there is no benefit in obeying the law. If arrest and imprisonment start to look arbitrary and there is no longer any means for redress then nobody will bother obeying laws. It leads a complete break down of the law.

"Sedition" in "wartime" coming from the mouth of the lawless orange "Oathbreaker-in-Chief" is the kind of chutzpah afforded by a corrupt system to a felonious potus. Trump is an affront to the US Constitution, period.

I only want Trump to follow US Laws when it comes to how people are treated as it relates to legal and illegal immigration.

Congress should be changing the laws to be more effective and with the GOP having the majority, why aren't they doing that today? Don't like the current laws, Trump? Provide Congress with a draft law to pass and you can sign it, then get to work deporting illegal immigrants.

The laws need to have fewer carrots (enticements) and more sticks (lifetime ban from entering). A hefty fine for illegally crossing needs to be included. Make the fine $5000 and double it for each offense.

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We would know if these people were tried in US courts.

how would you know? Who would tell you, one by one?

Trials are public.

--not "violent criminals". 

They came in illegally, did they not?

Moving the goal posts. Trump is invoking this 1798 law to target supposed dangerous "alien enemies" and "terrorists", not all undocumented migrants.

Or would this law potentially apply to anyone who's not a US citizen? Would you like Trump to apply it as broadly as possible? I'd like to know how sincere your admiration for MAGA dictatorship is.

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There's no proof anywhere yet they are "violent criminals". 

ICE announced so. Our government:

The rap sheets for those removed included aggravated assault, robbery, kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, prostitution, and aggravated assault of a police officer.”

Is out government lying?

Looks like it.

How is a country that isn’t even yours simply removing violent criminal illegal aliens= fascism?

That isn't what the US is doing. It gave no evidence, and refused to try people in US courts (because the Trump authorities knew they would lose) and instead sold these suspects into slavery in a foreign country.

It's fascist. Slavery is bad.

Looks like it

…without proof…

They came in illegally, did they not?

Not if they're asylum seekers.

ICE announced so. Our government:

Without any proof.

Is out government lying?

The Trump Administration has been proven to habitually and massively lie, so the answer is: oh yes, of course, "your" governement is lying. Only trolls and mentally challenged people believe them.