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© Thomson Reuters 2025.Trump says his patience running out as Europeans float proposals for Ukraine ceasefire
By Elizabeth Piper and John Irish LONDON/PARIS©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Manbaby Trump is past his naptime and needs someone to change him. The adults can do fine without him.
TaiwanIsNotChina
No, the worst statement made is that the US will not be sending troops ever to Ukraine. Made by Team Trump weeks ago.
Mr Kipling
Ceasefire? What happened to retaking the Dombas and Crimea? Reality starting to bite? Maybe some more Leopards? F-16s? other game-changers?
Ukraine prevails... ?
Underworld
Zelenskyy speaks the truth. Trump has indicated that he is siding with Russia, so any chance of a peace deal has gone.
The end of the war is very, very far away.
JeffLee
Is this the essense of "the art of the deal"? First you humiliate a main participant in public, Two days later, he flatly contradicts and undermines your position. "The art of the fiasco" more like it.
Asiaman7
If so, why did you host him at the White House the other day for the purpose of signing an agreement?
This “he’s not ready for peace” assertion is an “after-the-fact” argument that appeared only after the Trump meltdown (that oddly included a weird rant about Hunter Biden).
JJE
EU has sidelined themselves, are confused, desperate and playing a weak hand.
Pretty clear Zelensky wore out his welcome in the new administration in record time.
Nothing they said to him was non-factual: he is just not holding any cards (even minerals).
TaiwanIsNotChina
And yet you still can't explain to us why Putin doesn't propose a ceasefire.
JJE
Ceasefire happens when Putin's conditions are met. And not the other way around.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Just completely irrelevant.
TaiwanIsNotChina
That's not really a ceasefire then, is it?
Tamarama
Ukraine and Europe are reeling here over this 180 degree shift in US policy towards Ukraine and NATO expansion to Russia's doorstep.
The Pro-US crowd on JT don't like to hear this, and watch them thumbs down this post, but the US has been instrumental in making this conflict occur in the first place.
Going way back to expanding NATO east of Germany after 1992 and selling a ton of military hardware in the process, Interference in Ukraine politics in the 2014, instructing Zelensky not to negotiate and sign deals with Russia in 2022, only to now have Trump just roll it all back.
It's an astonishing turn of events, but don't for a minute think this whole thing isn't about Russian security (as they see it) and the US pushing and pushing at that over several decades. It's not rocket science, it's pretty easy to see. The Pro-US crowd doesn't like it, but that doesn't matter.
Europe, who have kind of sat around complacently under the 'protection' of the US and their political and economic investment in NATO expansion, are now scrambling like mad because Trump has picked up a completely different play book and pulled the rug out from under all of them. They have some serious work to do.
Does Putin win? Well, maybe. But maybe he is only getting from Trump what Russia has always insisted on going back as far as 1992 - which is: keep NATO away from our borders. Something previous US administrations and Europe has ignored.
JJE
Correct: a 'ceasefire' that allows Kyiv time to rearm (like they did with Minsk) won't be acceptable to Moscow. This won't be a frozen conflict so hostilities can commence down the track. There will need to be a permanent settlement, which incidentally includes delineated borders. Putin has made no secret of the other non-negotiable conditions, which need to be accommodated, as he holds all the cards and is in the driver's seat. Looks like Washington understands this reality.
I'veSeenFootage
Donald Trump is a traitorous idiot and the most unamerican politician in the history of the US.
TaiwanIsNotChina
A fascinating argument. The US started this war in 1992, huh? A single phone call is interference in 2014, huh? An agreement we will never see could have ended the war, huh? Are you also under the impression that everyone east of Germany should be removed from NATO?
Invading the sovereign territory of a UN recognized state is a war of aggression, pure and simple. So is trying to wipe it completely off of the map.
Fairly certain Yeltsin never complained that much about NATO and Putin at one time wanted to join it.
JJE
When Trump pulls US support - military, support, civil (most of the govt there is underwritten by US) - watch it collapse like a House of Cards. EU can't take up the slack. Project Ukraine and the plan to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia is a failure. This war is over one way or the other: details are just being ironed out by the adults.
TaiwanIsNotChina
So no ceasefire. Just the facts, ma'am.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I bet it lasts longer than you think: 30+ million Ukrainians are now held together exclusively by their hatred of russia.
Michael Machida
And I sit on the side lines wondering why people voted for Trump. It's obvious what he is capable of. The people who voted for trump are guilty for what happens to America and the world. We watch on.
KnightsOfCydonia
Same old tired comments from the same commentators every article. Washington and Moscow seem to be synchronised at this time so there is little value in their message.
Putin is not winning and he is not doing well in Ukraine no matter how people like to pretend.
Ukraine prevails regardless.
dan
Zelensky has taken enough money .
TaiwanIsNotChina
If all you had was russian sources of villas, yachts, and casinos purchased by Zelenskyy, I could see how you would believe that. Europe doesn't seem to believe any of it.
Yrral
Trump is not America,he more like a Putin Russian
Underworld
Tamarama
It’s not that some kind of crowd doesn’t like it. It’s that it isn’t true.
Why would Putin invade Ukraine in 2022, if by NATO’s own rules, Ukraine couldn’t join until 2042 at the earliest?
Simon Foston
JJEToday 06:58 am JST
So you're basically saying Putin's won then?
Some dude
Everyone outside his cult can see what's going on. He attempts to ambush and humiliate Zelenskyy at the White House, succeeds only in making a petulant idiot of himself, and now he has a hissy fit when Europe sensibly decides that he's far too compromised to have any input on the Ukraine situation. Plus he's all but parroting the Kremlin party line anyway.
He can bellyache all he wants to his followers, to Fox news (and their parent corporation Big Russian Media) but the rest of the world won't fall for it.
Underworld
Tamarama
If Russia is so insistent that keeping NATO away their borders is paramount, why did Putin say that he didn’t mind Finland joining NATO?
bass4funk
No, he’s doing just fine.
Let them do it, I pray and hope Europe takes a bigger role, then Europeans will see how much it costs when more of their tax money goes out to pay for other nations. So yes, let these adults take care of their geopolitical neighbors.
stormcrow
The EU is on the right side of history. Stay the course!
alex
I would say he is a stereotypical American. Bombastic, aggressive, loud, uninformed and obnoxious. He won the popular vote in America, which means that the majority of American people admire these qualities.
MarkX
The thing I cannot understand is the hatred so many Americans have for Zelenskyy and the admiration of Putin. Whatever the circumstances were, Putin invaded a sovereign country and waged war. There is just no defending him. But day in day out I see a group of pro-Trump supporters who cheer this on like he is some hero defending his country, when it is Zelenskyy, warts and all who is the real hero.
TaiwanIsNotChina
We got hit by the russian disinformation sphere real bad. Encouraged by traitors at Fox News and in the current administration.
bass4funk
As you said, that’s a very uninformed, obnoxious stereotypical assessment
Yes, people have become aware and now became wiser, sharper and understand how our government took advantage of the average voters, without Trump, the swamp and status quo would still exist and the nation would continue spending money we don’t have and people would continue to be miserable.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Oh they will will they? How many years of russian state TV do you think that will take?
On the contrary, its a very rapid way to build a country.
He's got to convince the American people that russia was always our ally and they are not on board:
https://united24media.com/latest-news/support-for-russia-in-us-hits-record-low-as-majority-view-it-as-an-enemy-6089
Then hopefully he'll win at least another million dead and incapacitated.
kurisupisu
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Actually, the US has the most powerful military in the world and emphatically,
Ukraine even with European aid cannot “do fine without him”
Yrral
Ukrainian should accept some of the blame for not striking the iron while the the fire was hot, knowing that the political winds shift at a moment notice,not truly thinking like an American,lots of foreigner are for a rude awakening,dealing with Trump
Underworld
Yrral
Unfortunately, the iron was never hot.
JJE
Bingo. EU globalists are in a state of denial. Talk of security guarantees and peacekeeping forces all hot air. The oval office confrontation was simmering tensions boiling over. Public debate is irrelevant too.
What is relevant is all happening behind closed doors between Washington and Moscow. Mandelson understands this reality, even if his government and others don't.
Underworld
JJE
What happens between Washington and Moscow, will not lead to peace.
theFu
Patience or intelligence - hard to know which has run out with the great, I-wanna-be-dictator, President.
Don't forget
So, Russia broke that promise/agreement, then both the UK and US broke their side of it by allowing Russia invaders, twice. Trump needs to learn some history and learn to stick to prior deals made in good faith.
HopeSpringsEternal
Trump and Zelenskyy have different Ukraine end games.
Trump's wants peace and rebuilding of Ukraine to spur economic activity, while reducing damage to currency real asset purchasing power via global economic normalization and elimination of WWIII escalation risks.
Zelenskyy wants NATO, especially US to join war via peace process 'triggers', an agenda of war and revenge to try to reclaim land by force, do great damage to Russia etc.
Above a big 'divide' on where to go from here, especially as Ukraine's currently failing on the battlefield and domestically as people flee and economy collapses.
TaiwanIsNotChina
The UK will be in a position to advise Ukraine. Trump will be in a position to shout on TV.
HopeSpringsEternal
Biggest problems for Zelenskyy?
Voters in Ukraine, US and Europe, the most relevant proxy supporters, increasingly against war, doubt Ukraine can achieve military success and dread global inflation and currency purchasing power destruction stemming from war, plus WWIII risks.
Next biggest problem, DJT opposes war
Next biggest problem, EU has little incremental military capacity to assist in the war at this time
Next biggest problem, who $pays and how!?
No analyst believes Ukraine and EU can go it alone.
bass4funk
Oh, I can definitely live with that arrangement.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Nobody outside of France has talked of sending foreign troops until the shooting stops.
You are probably right that he is only interested in Trump hotel locations. Also there is no such thing as global economic normalization.
ok1517
Those oh so great headlines again.
I shouldn't even scroll all the way to the articles, since I already know what it'll be all about.
Anyways, here we go:
1. Trump says his patience running out as Europeans float proposals for Ukraine ceasefire
2. White House seeks plan for possible Russia sanctions relief, sources say
3. Trump says 25% Canada, Mexico tariffs to take effect on Tuesday
1. If Donald doesn't get it his way, he starts crying like a baby, stumping with his feet, and in need of a diaper change. What a great government representative (like most of his admin members)
2. Of course that's what he wants - can't do anything else, since he is walking hand-in-hand with his buddy dictator in the Kremlin! Doesn't want to disappoint that one.
3. Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs .... Canada, Mexico, China, Europe, Japan .... the man is suffering from borderline personality disorder, derangement syndrome and much more. Burning all bridges within a couple of weeks, destroying cherished agreements which were built in decades and guaranteed peace and freedom. Nero Ver 2.0, combined with Adolf Ver2.0.1! Prevent the beginnings!!!
TaiwanIsNotChina
Are you under the impression that anyone in Europe rolls over and does what Manbaby says?
Wasabi
US - Russia, the new Axis of evil. The rest of the world will defend the freedom against them.
American, do you feel great now that you side with Russia?
John-San
What Trump wants is to please Putin, that is Trumps end game. Peace is irrelevant and would only be a bi-product of Trumps Lick Lick Sucky Sucky. His main focus is simple just to please Putin.
TaiwanIsNotChina
No analayst believed Ukraine would last three years, either.
Voters in Europe including Ukraine are not in favor of any territorial concessions to russia.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump does not speak for America on normalizing ties with russia.
HopeSpringsEternal
Why Trump is being so careful about no US or NATO involvement in his Ukraine 4 step peace plan (rapid ceasefire, codification of peace terms, peacekeepers and long-term reconstruction and econ. development)?
DJT wants no possibility of any peace agreement 'triggers' to entrap US & NATO into direct conflict with Russia, should Peace 'Fail" = Global WWIII Risk Mgmt.
HopeSpringsEternal
For regular people and businesses across the globe, the end of the war and global economic normalization will much lower commodity prices and stronger currency purchasing power = increased standards of living
Above key reason, along with avoiding WWIII escalation and senseless killing, DJT insists on his 4Step Peace Plan
HopeSpringsEternal
correction
For regular people and businesses across globe, end of the war and global economic normalization will bring much lower commodity prices and stronger currency purchasing power = increased standards of living
Above key reason, along with avoiding WWIII escalation and senseless killing, DJT insists on his 4Step Peace Plan
HopeSpringsEternal
Another key point, EU now in a recession with very little current military capacity given its weapons and supply stocks have been mainly given to Ukraine for 3 years.
EU is a 'paper' war partner, Ukraine knows this, the EU needs to rebuild its military for its security and the $budget gears are just getting started = will take YEARS
Above ignores the fact that EU re-aligning politically away from Ukraine war support, voters mad etc. Macron is a lame duck and he's Ukraine's leading EU supporter.
Sven Asai
BTW, also the small people and soldiers on the ground could easily end the war. Instead of shooting and killing each other they could immediately send a messenger to. the other front side and then make a peace party and drinking vodka together. Or instead fighting themselves dead they could return and invade their capitals Moscow and Kiyiv and wipe out their own war mongers on the top. It's easy, the politician bashing of Trump, Selenskiy or Putin, but everyone involved is responsible if the bloodshed doesn't end immediately.
lincolnman
Americans patience has already run out on this Felonious Fool...
He spends more time praising Putin and dissing our allies than he does fighting inflation, creating jobs, or decreasing the deficit...
Then he goes and makes even more of a fool out of himself at his press conference with Zelensky - who made him look like the demented, old, imbecile he is...
bass4funk
Well, Zelenskyy better think how he’s going to do this, doesn’t have much time. I knew it.
https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1896713793197002990?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
wallace
Media reports Trump has suspended all military aid going to Ukraine until Zelenskyy comes to heal and signs an agreement with Trump.
Mr Kipling
Maybe because he is winning handsomely?
I'm sure he will when Ukraine faces reality and gives up on the 4 Oblasts, Crimea and its NATO fantasies.
wallace
Musk has posted on his X the US should leave NATO and the UN. Katamine is kicking in.
Blacklabel
Good. No aid for the little guy after what he did. Apologize profusely, put on a suit and let’s talk for what’s next for him.
It was also recently confirmed (by a Democrat)?that Zelensky was encouraged by Dems he met earlier in the day to do exactly what he did in the Oval Office.
So that was planned, to try to ambush us in front of the world media. But Z just embarrassed himself by following poor advice from election losers.
HopeSpringsEternal
Just my predication. Expect Ukraine ceasefire sometime this Spring, sometime this Summer a peace agreement to be finalized, Non-NATO based peacekeepers to be deployed and for reconstruction to begin.
EU and Ukraine just "don't have the cards" as DJT would say. Also expect once above 4step peace plan in place, US will begin some military force reductions in Europe.
Hopefully, above is sooner rather than later, as killing needs to stop and Ukraine needs to begin to recover.
iknowall
The US is sending weapons to Russia?
Trump just said last night, This war must end.
As Marco Rubio said, Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
This war started under Biden ends under Trump.
bass4funk
Yup, like one former president once said, “election has its consequences.” Zelenskyy should have taken the deal in the first place. Now he has to do in a public apology, you could’ve saved himself that grief.
I'veSeenFootage
Every accusation is an admission. Absolutely noone with a working brain believes any of this crapola.
Please, MAGA fans, go live in Russia, you will obviously all be much happier there.
mrtinjp
France, Britain and potentially other European countries have offered to send troops to Ukraine
This will result in wider escalation, russia will than strike anywhere in europe, basically ww3, which is what Zelenskyy's backers desperately want.
JeffLee
I always enjoy the countless videos showing UK-Swedish made NLAWs easily render Russian tanks, including the supposedly advanced T90, into an exploding, boiling mess.
Western Europe makes some of the most advanced weaponry on Earth. And they're willing to give lots of it to the Ukrainians, who don't need foreign soldiers, unlike Putin's North Korean comrades.
The Europeans have also got Leopard tanks, which are better suited to the European terrain than US Abrams. And they've got old F-16s they're still willing to give away. Remember that Hitler's and Imperial Japan's forces appeared clearly superior at the start of the war. A couple of years later, the Allies had turned the tables on technologies and strategy.
HopeSpringsEternal
Nobody in their right mind believes Ukraine has a military path to victory, especially Ukrainian Citizens & DJT
So now comes the messy part, exactly how to carefully turn the page from WAR to PEACE. Thankfully, DJT was elected in order to successfully 'turn the page' in Ukraine!
lincolnman
Indeed - MAGA prefers to "Make America Like Russia" - that's Trump's plan to "make us great again"....
And he's making progress - Russia's inflation rate is 10% - and Trump's tariffs will soon have the US beating that...
Put that hilarious fairy tale in the same category as "they're eating the pets"....
OkinawaRider
Donald Trump is a traitorous idiot and the most unamerican politician in the history of the US.
Untrue. POTUS is pro peace and pro American interests.
Bob Fosse
If you recall Rubio also said he was a con artist and that he wet his pants.
wallace
Trump has only been president for 43 days and he claims his patience is running out. Short attention span OCD.
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
Nobody in their right mind thought that Ukraine would last a week of Russian invasion.
And yet, here we are, three years later.
John-San
The Fascist posters really want Ukraine to loss and are in Putin corner and all of them are USAmericans. I can easy go back to the beginning of the war and copy and paste most of these Fascist poster real negative comments about Putin and Russian whom are now hoping for a Putin/Trump leaning ceasefire. Never trust the USA as a Allie. Such a fickle society. The dogs will stab you in the back for a political win.
wallace
Ukraine has not lost the war and Russia has not won it. Putin said it would be over in the first few weeks. Trump said he would end it in 24 hours, that was 42 days ago. Tick tock.
yakyak
Europe is good for history, that's about it. They can never make deals for the future of the world.
Alex
Just the comments here, its better to have peace and the war to end asap. Ukraine is not an innocent party at all its just people are too lazy to look at the whole history leading up to this.
HopeSpringsEternal
DJT means business and intends to be a TRUE Global Fiduciary by achieving Peace, first and foremost for the Poor people of Ukraine who have suffered enough, along with entire world being destabilized and damaged, especially currency real asset purchasing power.
The EU and Zelenskyy need to stand down, as they had their chance to achieve Peace and made Zero Effort.
geronimo2006
The pro-Russian useful idiot in the WH is now showing us his real hand. He never intended to support Ukraine. He backs Putin. When he couldn't get his ridiculous 'peace on day one' claim we got to watch the spectacle at the WH, which has ironically strengthened support for Ukraine among all other countries. Trump has now stopped support for Ukraine and intends to give sanction relief to Russia. It is very clear which side he is on. The US now cannot force Ukraine into a bad peace. It has no leverage. Zelenskyy will correctly access the US as being hostile to Ukrainian cause, and I think the war on words is just getting started.
TokyoLiving
That narcissistic clown thinks he owns Europe..
HopeSpringsEternal
Zelenskyy will be forced out soon. US relationship FAR too important for Ukraine, as only country Putin respects and fears and thus will abide by DJT's 4step Peace Plan.
wallace
What is Trump offering in a four-way peace deal, Ukraine, Russia, US, and UK/EU?
We know he wants the minerals, but what will he give?
Under his second term, he has given nothing to Ukraine because there has been no new Trump aid.
OkinawaRider
Underworld 06:49am, What happens between Washington and Moscow, will not lead to peace.
Quite the opposite. This war will end under Trump administration.
The end of the war is very, very far away.
The end of the war is much closer under POTUS Trump than it would have been under the previous WH occupant. US voters knew that and made their choice.
Same old tired comments from the same commentators every article.
You are absolutely correct, the same old anti Trump rants from the same old commentators do get old and tiring.
The thing I cannot understand is the hatred so many Americans have for Zelenskyy and the admiration of Putin.
What is even harder to understand is how many on the left don't understand ( or pretend not to understand) that wanting this war to end and bloodshed to cease does not equal hating Zelensky or admiring Putin.
Blacklabel
“Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine.”
a post from a Democrat Senator who met Zelensky and posted this before the Oval Office meeting. Along with a couple of “Republicans”.
he is now walking it all back that he already knew Zelensky would reject the offer he had agreed three times now to sign.
Blacklabel
Doesn’t he?
if he doesn’t, Europe can do it all by themselves. Please do.
HopeSpringsEternal
DJT's Ukraine 4 step Peace Plan includes rapid ceasefire, codification of peace terms, peacekeepers not aligned with NATO and long-term reconstruction and econ. development, including rare earths etc.
Above will take DECADES, involve tens of thousands of foreigners from many countries and is a true pathway to peace and prosperity for Ukraine that Putin will abide by.
Meanwhile war time Pres. Zelenskyy proposes more of the same = Death and Destruction as UA is failing on the battlefield and badly undermanned etc.
Pretty obvious most Ukrainians strongly prefer DJT Plan
geronimo2006
Latest is Trump has stopped aid and wants Zelenskyy to publically apologise - in other words - kiss the ring. Not sure how much of a choice he has. He can hold out for 3-6 months but Putin will just wait it out. Honestly, I think even if he does bow down, Trump will still throw Ukraine under the bus anyway because all he's interested in a quick peace and gratification at Ukraine's expense. Putin wins either way.
Underworld
Alex
Ukraine is a completely innocent party.
If you think otherwise, provide evidence that they are not.
Underworld
OkinawaRider
What happens between Washington and Moscow, will not lead to peace.
Let’s see how well this lasts…
bass4funk
Ukraine will not win this war. It can’t, the only way for Ukraine to win this war would be to put troops on the ground, that’s not going to happen on the US side and I don’t think Europe will commit to that, so if they’re not some serious concessions made Putin is not going to stop, that’s a statistical fact
Well, Zelenskyy needs to think what is more important, his country or his pride. He and he alone needs to figure this out and fast.
bass4funk
Yeah, you don’t go to someone else’s country who you ask for aid and then talk smack in their face, I’m not sure what he was thinking
I agree
Most likely and sadly.
OkinawaRider
UnderworldToday 10:15 am JST
Of course, but that is due to all the US and NATO support. Without it , as POTUS pointed out war would have been over in a matter of weeks. No doubt Ukrainians fight bravely , but this war is unwinnable for them. It needs to be brought to an end and that is precisely what WH is working on.
OkinawaRider
I'veSeenFootageToday 07:08 am JST
Donald Trump is a traitorous idiot and the most unamerican politician in the history of the US.
Absolutely not the case.
TaiwanIsNotChinaToday, We got hit by the russian disinformation sphere real bad. Encouraged by traitors at Fox News and in the current administration
There are no "traitors" at Fox news or the current administration. That is just a lot of over the top silly anti Trump talk.