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By JILL COLVIN, MELISSA PEREZ WINDER and ADRIANA GOMEZ LICON TRAVERSE CITY, Mich©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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konjo4u
He is such a hypocrite on immigration. There has never been anyone at that level of government who gets a pass from the media when employing illegal immigrant labor and using shady tactics to circumvent immigration and labor laws. He should be getting charged for the very violations he claims to have policies against.
PTownsend
Is Carlson still in Russia? similar to the beliefs of many Trump Republicans he seems to think iRussia a better place to live than the US., Carlson and the other radical extremists that follow him, though Tucker's been shown to be duplicitous, all should shift there, and let US Americans that want the US Constitution to continue, and not have a fascist regime do further damage to the republic via things like the ruling caste, aka the elite establishment's Project 2025.
DaDude
First, what % of violent crimes in the U.S. actually get charged? Second, immigrants should not be committing violent crimes at all as guests of the country getting free support from our tax dollars.
stormcrow
For world peace & stability, let us pray that this fat old fascist loses.
JJE
Harris supporters don't like the optics or the provable fact she oversaw 10 million plus illegal immigrants in the three and a half years of the Biden administration. Even worse, they brazenly refuse to be held to account and blame others.
dagon
Who said Trump does not embrace fascist rhetoric?
And add to that MAGA psycho-sexual fantasies that we really didn't want to hear about.
This appeals to who?
quercetum
Harris’s loss will down in history as a lesson not to skip the open primary selection process.
Ah_so
This was only half of it. His detailed description of spanking a 15-year old girl was just a bit to detailed and creepy. He really enjoyed himself.
No wonder - he's MAGA.
Bad Haircut
The increasingly shrill tone of articles like this is proof that the Left establishment media are in nuclear panic mode now. They're not even pretending to throw a veil of objectivity over dross like this article, and as far as I'm concerned, they're getting funnier by the day. Now it's looking like Trump could get the popular vote as well as the electoral college, neutering the Democrats' message that they're still more popular.
The establishment's candidate is such a poor performer that they can't even risk her going on Rogan's podcast because they know she'll be a blubbering, incomprehensible mess just 10 minutes in, so they make up some transparent excuse about "scheduling conflicts." Trump of course will ramble through his Rogan appearance, but he doesn't care and isn't afraid of people challenging him.
This is going to be an interesting and entertaining week or two ahead.
ok1517
Who really cares about Donald?
He'll be washed down the drain, humiliated and VP Harris will be the next POTUS!
I mean, just look at it:
while VP Harris has another rally with thousands attending Donald sits down for yet another instigatng podcast.
While VP Harris does her utmost to unite - Donald does the best he can to divide!
While VP Harris stands for freedom and democracy, Donald praises dictators like Kim, Putain, and Orban.
Always the same: who to you want to be the next POTUS? A convicted felon, cheater, divider, military insulting draft dodger?
Peter Neil
expulsions and apprehensions at the border are 4-5 times more now than under trump.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/10/27/multimedia/2023-10-12-ambriefing-border-encounters-index/2023-10-12-ambriefing-border-encounters-index-facebookJumbo.png
if citizens came even close to the crime rate of illegals, the country would be a paradise. it’s the crime rate of citizens making the u.s. a garbage can.
https://i.insider.com/58b715d7ae21f965038b4652?width=1200
trump quotes: "I will get rid of the 'communist' 'vermin'," "I will take care of the 'threat from within'," "Migrants are 'poisoning the blood of our country'", and "'One people, one family, one glorious nation."
Hitler quotes: "I will get rid of the 'communist' 'vermin'," "I will take care of the 'enemy within'," "Jews and migrants are poisoning Aryan blood," and "One people, one realm, one leader."
Some dude
The increasingly shrill tone of articles like this is proof that the Left establishment media are in nuclear panic mode now. They're not even pretending to throw a veil of objectivity over dross like this article, and as far as I'm concerned, they're getting funnier by the day. Now it's looking like Trump could get the popular vote as well as the electoral college, neutering the Democrats' message that they're still more popular.
Back on the "flooding the zone" strategy, I see.
bass4funk
In some aspects
Extremist, you mean by being a common sense American first patriot?
Not sure what you’re talking about, not sure why liberals continue to talk about something that hasn’t happened and would never happen. You guys are upsetting yourselves, relax.
Some dude
Always the same: who to you want to be the next POTUS? A convicted felon, cheater, divider, military insulting draft dodger?
It would appear that a disturbing number of people do indeed want that.
Even if we factor out the chaos agents (like the ones who post here, with the above-mentioned "flooding the zone" tricks), there are clearly a sizeable number of people whose vote is going to be based on rage, grievance, fear, and other such republican fuel.
Question is, are there enough people on the other side to outvote them?
Bad Haircut
Strategy? Nah, just observation. As you said yesterday, neither you nor I are going to influence this contest. But there's nothing wrong with pointing out what's happening. Some people will agree, some will deny reality and disagree. No skin off my nose.
Ricky Kaminski13
Will try again and stay on topic. Thanks always moderators.
Just reading these pieces is proof of confirmation bias, where the brain can only see what it believes backs up its own version of reality, we all suffer from it at one level or another by nature, but this sort of article is next level and at this stage, plain as day deliberate bias.
Pity that journalists have now decided it’s perfectly fine to print this sort of stuff. Do they actually believe themselves to be swaying peoples opinions? I’d suggest the effect maybe quite the opposite.
More in your face proof that 90% of the established media, celebrities, corporate interests, powerful people with secrets that they want kept secret are all lined up behind the Harris campaign. The blob mob I’m gunna call them. There’s desperation in the wind.
Yet, despite all of it ; the demonizing, the lawfare, the outlandish claims about Trump being Hitler or a demigod, he remains completely comfortable in his own skin, works a crowd, is personable, funny and stays full of conviction. He has the touch and the blob can’t stand that. He is also uncontrollable , a big no no.
on the topic.
Nice final attempt to delegitimize the most influential podcaster in the world too. Marvelous stuff
Rogan won’t baby him either, and nor does he need to be.
Wonder if THIS comment will survive the moderators. Is that not the whole appeal of the JT news page. The free flowing sharing of opinions and comments? Free speech baby!
I disagree with what you say, but I’ll fight to the death for your right to say it. Let it be please and have a wonderful weekend.
Some dude
Strategy? Nah, just observation. As you said yesterday, neither you nor I are going to influence this contest. But there's nothing wrong with pointing out what's happening. Some people will agree, some will deny reality and disagree. No skin off my nose.
"Observation" implies looking at something with a relatively unbiased eye. Hence "objectivity", of which there is none in your post. The hectoring, even hysterical, use of language ("nuclear panic mode"), suggests that you are desperate for Trump to win.
Which makes me even doubt your claim to not be American.
TokyoLiving
Trump and Texas, there cannot be such an underdeveloped, medieval, racist, backward and pathetic combination..
Ricky Kaminski13
Yeah mate, the not easily offended class. A solid sense of humor.
Blacklabel
Sounds like a winning strategy 10 days out.
Harris will be avoiding Rogan to attend a Beyoncé event. In Texas, not a swing state.
bass4funk
Yes!
Over a woman that’s inarticulate, and doesn’t know the issues, let alone talk and can’t answer basic questions about politics, yes, all day long.
With valid reason
Not legally
Blacklabel
there were- for Joe Biden.
oops.
bass4funk
And yet, great food, freedom, lots of land, no state taxes and the second amendment, great trade-off
bass4funk
I don’t think outsiders really know what is really happening.
Yes
When outsiders say that, I need to yawn
Seems like more than half of the country wants that now, even CNN are more receptive to than the norm.
Some dude
Harris will be avoiding Rogan
I think the phrase is "not wasting her time with".
Why would she go on the podcast of the ultimate DudeBro?
lincolnman
Trump goes on Joe Rogan...
"Mr President, let's talk about the border"....
"Not now Joe, the music just came on - gotta dance"....(spastic dancing)....
One hour later....
"Mr President, I'm afraid our time is over - too bad we didn't get to discuss anything"...
"It's all right Joe, I'm going to lose anyway so let's just get down and get jiggy with it"...
Some dude
Yes!
Over a woman that’s inarticulate, and doesn’t know the issues, let alone talk and can’t answer basic questions about politics, yes, all day long.
Well, we can't accuse you of being unambiguous. You just openly admitted that you think that the highest office in the USA, and possibly the most influential office in the world in terms of global influence, should go to a "convicted felon, cheater, divider, military insulting draft dodger". Just because you're scared of the idea of a woman running things.
I thought people in Texas were supposed to be tough.
Blacklabel
to get the DudeBro vote after clearly explaining how her policies benefit them and all Americans.
oh wait….they don’t and she couldn’t explain those if they did.
need more than the cat lady vote. RCP has muh popular vote as “tied”. That’s a Trump landslide in electoral college. At this Hillary and Biden were up 6 and 8.
Some dude
to get the DudeBro vote after clearly explaining how her policies benefit them and all Americans.
She'd have to dumb it down to a first grader level if she wants the kind of people who listen to Joe Rogan to understand. I think she'd be better off talking to people who would actually be able to listen to what she's saying.
Bad Haircut
If I were American, I'd happily proclaim it. It just happens that I'm Australian. But sure, for all his faults I'd much prefer for Trump to win and I'm not ashamed of admitting it. He's not perfect, but he's about the only viable prospect right now for slowing down the West's decline to a manageable rate so that we can start to fix some of the myriad problems we're facing, and clean out the troublemakers. A Harris presidency offers no such opportunities and will only hasten the decline. She just offers more of the same. Do you really want that?
And with Trump as president, this will give voters in other countries more courage to ditch the globalists and left-wingers ruining other countries like Canada, Australia, EU members, and eventually the UK when the next elections come around.
Joe
These are some weird people.
Some dude
She just offers more of the same. Do you really want that?
If you mean that would I rather "the west" (as you rather nebulously put it) become more like, say, Russia, North Korea, etc., then I'd probably say no.
If "the same" refers to the policies of Joe Biden (as our friends here regularly accuse her of simply continuing with his policies), then given that Biden turned around the reputation of the US as an international joke under Trump and sent the stock market to the highest it's ever been recorded at, then I could see an argument being made for maintaining that.
However, I suspect that we're coming from too different an angle to see things the same way. You're obviously down on "the west" to the point that you'd rather see dictatorial-type strongmen running everything everywhere; I don't think that would be very smart.
Data
Besides going into hiding in the last weeks of the election, here is another sure "tell" that Trump knows he's going to lose.
"Donald Trump and his allies have suggested for months that the 2024 election will be “stolen,” much like they did in the 2020 cycle, prepping unfounded claims ahead of time that the election will be undermined by “noncitizen” voters, overseas ballot programs, and mail-in voting.
But on Friday, Trump officially called it, writing a “cease and desist” on Truth Social that effectively announced the Republican presidential nominee already believes that the November election is rigged—mere days into early voting.
“CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election,” Trump posted. “It was a Disgrace to our Nation!”
https://newrepublic.com/post/187578/donald-trump-first-call-election-fraud-conspiracies
A clear admission that he's going to lose and do a replay of 2020.
Data
I'm not so sure about that - Trump has called his supporters the great unwashed, basement dwellers, and fat pigs, and they all seem to love it.
Blacklabel
What “kind of” people would this be? Most popular podcast in the USA by the way. Trump does podcasts that get millions and 10s of millions of views.
kamala most watched one was the vulgar one she did, only like half a million repressed women.
now she gotta pay Beyoncé millions to sing “Freedom” in front of a few people already voting for her.
Bad Haircut
There's an own-goal if ever I've seen one.
The only way one can empathise with socialism is to think like an idiot. I mean, how many people do you have to kill in the last century for it to be considered a bad idea? more than 100 million?
Blacklabel
Oh suddenly you don’t enjoy the “popular” vote? lol
Some dude
To summarize, a direct question to the left:
who is going to win the election?
Answering as an outside spectator, not as "the left", I think Harris will, but not by a lot, and we will see a repeat of Election By Litigation as Trump (with help from Musk and other inordinately rich people and/or the Supreme Court) will do everything he possibly can to try and overturn it. The result of that, cannot be predicted.
bass4funk
I think it’s actually an improvement
That is the plan
The Dem machine in a nutshell
Blacklabel
uh huh. You do realize that unlike Kamala he is actually doing the interview and we can watch it?
so your made up scenario isn’t needed at all.
Joe
Love it. If the election were decided by the popular vote, Trump would never have been president in the first place and the cult formerly known as the GOP would never win another national election.
bass4funk
Great for Trump, extraordinarily dumb for her.
She’s struggling with Blacks, Latinos and Catholics and she wants to not go on the largest Podcast in nation???? Tell you what, going to Texas is a waste of time.
11 million listeners per episode, again, per episode. Outreach.
Peter Neil
than joe rogan has so much so-called influence is frightening.
joe rogan won’t challenge trump on any of his lies. he’s always been fascinated with conspiracies and nutcases talking about aliens.
he’ll just fawn and “woah” his way through it.
”jamie, pull up that video with harris being eaten by a bear…”
Some dude
Tell you what, going to Texas is a waste of time.
Never a truer word spoken. I note that you didn't specify "for Harris", but presented it as a general statement of fact.
Underworld
Let's see if Rogan asks Trump why he quashed the bipartisan border bill. Not sure if he will have the guts to ask.
Blacklabel
ouch. Really gonna hurt want. Trump wins the popular vote too.
then you won’t have a thing to whine about.
then we can expand the Supreme Court by 5 like the left is demanding. Ouch.
bass4funk
Of course I meant, Harris
bass4funk
Oh, I hope he does and will do so proudly why he pushed to kill that disastrous bill.
Jimizo
A bit unfair.
Joe Rogan does seem to attract the bro/conspiracy theory/alternative media crowd but I have come across serious people who watch it.
I read his audience trends young.
You can see why.
Some dude
Of course I meant, Harris
Or any woman who may need an abortion after being sexually assaulted, for instance.
Blacklabel
the Democrats are already litigating to keep non citizen voters on the voting roll. They have 70 lawsuits “ready to go” and “teams in place”.
Pennsylvania and Colorado already caught attempts at voter fraud. Guarantee when Dems lose they claim fraud.
Some dude
We shall see.
Yeah, that's sort of what "cannot be predicted" means. Linguistics not your strong point, I see.
Data
And one more former Trump official joins the stampede that say he is unhinged and dangerous.
"With less than two weeks until Election Day, former Trump allies are sounding the alarm that Donald Trump isn’t the same man they knew.
Speaking with Kaitlan Collins on CNN’s The Source Thursday night, former Trump White House deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews agreed that the Republican presidential nominee had become “unstable” and no longer resembled the man who captured the nation’s attention when he descended a golden escalator at Trump Tower in 2015.
“That’s been my warning to Republican voters out there,” Matthews told Collins. “This isn’t the same man that I worked for. I think that something in him broke in the 2020 election. He was unable to accept that loss and he started to unravel.”
bass4funk
Look, you don’t live in the states, you’re not even American, it really doesn’t matter if you believe it or not because it doesn’t impact you either way. But for conversational purposes we can chat, that’s always ok, that’s as far as it goes.
Legrande
The podcaster is known for his hourslong interviews on “The Joe Rogan Experience,” which is listed as No. 1 in the United States, according to Spotify’s charts. He calls women “chicks” and once laughed as a comedian friend described repeatedly coercing young women comics into sex.
People who are not familiar with Rogan are apt to be affected by these taken out of context statements and immediately view Rogan in a unilaterally negative way. Media so manipulative as usual.
rcch
Certain newspapers refuse to endorse Kamala, CNN and others are tired of her bs, and “ Trump and Harris tied for popular vote in latest poll … “ (meaning that, if reflected in the electoral college, we could be looking at a landslide victory for Trump) and she (the most incompetent presidential candidate in US history) still has the support of practically half the country (and in many cases, the people who vote for her are fully aware that her presidency would be a total failure)—“ … orange man is bad “, lmao.
Blacklabel
The Virginia judge must be related to Kamala with this nonsense word salad to justify putting nom citizens back on the voting rolls:
“And while Giles concurred it is "undoubtedly in the public interest for ineligible voters to be removed," she noted it is also in the public interest "for states to comply with federal law particularly the right to vote."
Jimizo
Oh wait! A bit hysterical. I haven’t read half of the material ever written on presidential candidates, but just in my lifetime I’ve seen worse. Romney would be one.
She’s certainly no Bill Clinton or Obama but she is up against a man in very severe mental decline who didn’t start from a high bar to begin with.
Not great options.
bass4funk
Quite the opposite actually
Not for the Democrats, this is true
dagon
Straight up Rogan is not stupid.
I respect comedians and their skill, he came out and supported Sanders and Yang.
He has a lot lot of MAGA in his audience but I am interested to see how he handles this.
rcch
“ He calls women “chicks” and once laughed as a comedian friend described repeatedly coercing young women comics into sex. “—
Another ridiculous attempt by the media to discredit anything or anyone that helps Trump—in this case, will help Trump reach an even larger number people who are willing to vote for him. This is the same as saying “ Joe Rogan is not a perfect human being “—ridiculous.
—
“We’re like a garbage can for the rest of the world to dump the people that they don’t want,” Trump told supporters Friday in Austin. —Accurate.
Jimizo
He doesn’t come across as stupid from what I’ve seen ( not much to be honest ).
He certainly knows what sells and how to cultivate an audience - his followers get very uncomfortable with criticism of him. His numbers are very impressive.
Clearly knows the business he is in.
Bad Haircut
And he's smart enough to change his mind when he sees the evidence for doing so.
bass4funk
Check the lawsuits being filed
bass4funk
He reaches all demographics, he’s like Larry King, but not as boring
Joe
How utterly on brand for moron in Chief to leave his rubes hanging in the cold so he can do a puff-cast.
rcch
(edited)
she’s the most incompetent presidential candidate in US history and she still has the support of millions of people around the world (as demonstrated in the comments sections here on JT every day and by the downvotes on certain posts)
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Jimizo, maybe it’s not incompetence, it’s dishonesty—that would explain why whenever she speaks without a teleprompter she doesn’t make sense—you and I both know she hides her true beliefs.
DaDude
Curious about your opinion of him pre-2020. Dems turned on him quick when they started whining about anti-vaxxers.
Jimizo
Does ‘everybody know’ this?
She certainly isn’t the most dishonest candidate we’ve seen.
Try the pathological liar/conspiracy theorist she’s running against at the moment.
I’ve seen more honesty from a hysterical teenager spamming social media under different handles.
Zaphod
Trump on the Rogan experience will be interesting. Joe is great at getting to the heart of any issue with all of his guests. He had also invited Harris, but unsurprisingly she turned the invitation down, preferring to stay in her safe spaces. Her trying to join long-form talk with Rogan would have become an epic trainwreck.
wallace
Joe who?
bass4funk
Should easily break the 11 million listener record.
Zaphod
Peter Neil
Now Joe Rogan gets trashed too? It is like the reverse Midas touch... whoever gets associated with Trump is added to their trash list. RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, Musk..... all are suddenly bad. What derangement does to people...
That is a ridiculous claim. Rogan always digs to get to the heart of things, like a truffle pig sniffing for mushrooms. I suppose you forgot that Rogan has been consistently very critical of Trump, only recently joining the Trump wagon because the other side has become so insane (very much like RFK and Gabbard).
Are we now re-writing the track record of people like in 1984?
Zaphod
In addition: Nobody would listen to Rogan if he was in the business of fawning ad woahing people. The reason he has now millions of listeners is precisely that does NOT do such a thing.
Legrande
Rogan makes a great point at the start of the podcast how initially Trump was embraced by liberal media in 2016 but that the 'machinery turned against him' once he started winning in the polls.
Jimizo
Joe Rogan is very popular with younger men of a certain mindset.
They are remarkably predictable in their ideas. It’s interesting how they label themselves ‘free thinkers’ but sound very similar.
I thought getting ‘free thinkers’ to converge would be like herding cats.
rcch
“ She certainly isn’t the most dishonest candidate we’ve seen. “
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Being dishonest is part of being a politician anywhere in the world—you’re missing the point here—she is the one whose views on many issues are the most extreme and would radically change America and the western world for the worse—hence the part about hiding her true beliefs—she wouldn't be where she is today if everyone knew the true Kamala.
Jimizo
Why wouldn’t doing that be popular among certain people?
Trump/Rogan followers fall in love very easily. The fire with which they defend what they love is touching.
I’m such a miserable cynic. Maybe I need a bit more puppy dog about me.
Peter Neil
trump was doing his history lecture to rogan about how lincoln was very depressed about the death of his son, todd.
todd died 6 years after lincoln.
ok1517
It's always been the same, it still is the same, and would be the same if he ever became PotUS!
It's all about him and himself.
He doesn't care about the population, except for his clan.
And what a podcast it was! Even Joe Rogan was laughing about Donald's comments!
Mpqholygrail
I hope some of you get the care you need after November 6th. I want to take this time to let you know that there is help out there if you’re feeling bad after the election. I mean this with deep sincerity since I think there is going to be a larger mental health crisis in the states when the election results come out. So be kind to your neighbors after and realize that they are your neighbors. You love eat and work next to these people. Your actual physical community is more important than having your soul crushed because some you believe in is gone.
now for my opinion because the above was genuine concern.
I agree with Bass4funk on all previous comments. Downvote away!
Joe
Goober desperation is palpable.
Attilathehungry
Well, I can't WAIT for Kamala to go on Rogan and set the record straight! She wants to reach men, there is probably no better forum to do so.
Oh, she refused? Never mind....
Jimizo
Not sure about that.
Joe Rogan’s audience trends young, bro, and conspiracy theorist. They tend to think and say the same things in my experience - almost always pro-Trump ( probably the loudest foghorn of conspiracy theory crap ).
Is this fertile ground for Harris?