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Trump wins major victory as Congress passes flagship bill

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The latest step in the death of America as a democracy.

5 ( +22 / -17 )

Huge win for border security - 170 billion for DHS-ICE-CBP etc enabling a historic ramp-up in enforcement.

-16 ( +10 / -26 )

Prevented a huge tax increase on 68% of US taxpayers, lowered taxes on most low-mid income and seniors, slowed the growth of Medicaid spending (did not cut spending, only reduced the INCREASE), eliminated Medicaid eligibility for illegal aliens, 25 billion dollars for rural hospitals for 5 straight years,... great win for the US.

He just keeps winning.

-7 ( +10 / -17 )

Wasteful.

Includes $85 million to move one of the four space shuttles (Discovery) from the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum to Space Center Houston, which already has a full-scale replica of a space shuttle, to appease Texas Republican senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz.

Ridiculous. Talk about waste and abuse!

5 ( +16 / -11 )

Fabulous! Love this President! Just fantastic!

-17 ( +12 / -29 )

MAGAs are now the party of throwing 12 million off of healthcare. And it is their voters that use Medicaid.

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Bret TToday  06:49 am JST

25 billion dollars for rural hospitals

Yeah it is good they put a bandaid on that gunshot wound they just caused.

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MAGAs are now the party of throwing 12 million off of healthcare. And it is their voters that use Medicaid.

As someone who seems really angry about it, how will this bill affect you?

-9 ( +8 / -17 )

This bill, this one big, ugly bill -- this reckless Republican budget, this disgusting abomination -- is not about improving the quality of life of the American people

A reverse Robin Hood: steal from the poor and give to the rich.

Ironically, rural Trump voters will feel much of the pain as their hospitals close and their Medicaid vanishes.

But it is expected to pile an extra $3.4 trillion over a decade onto the country's fast-growing deficits

Indeed. The fiscal irresponsibility of the GOP is astounding.

8 ( +18 / -10 )

A reverse Robin Hood: steal from the poor and give to the rich.

Able-bodied people and illegals should not get a dime.

Ironically, rural Trump voters will feel much of the pain as their hospitals close and their Medicaid vanishes.

Yes, so if they can work, they should, they should never mooch off the government and illegals should ever get any benefits

Indeed. The fiscal irresponsibility of the GOP is astounding.

Just absolute false and stupid nonsense. You always get the facts wrong. Those of you saying this bill is raising the deficit need to get informed. Each budget passed over the last 4 years was projected to increase the deficit over 10 years by $17T, $18T, $21T, and $22T respectively. This budget reduces the $22T projected deficit from last years budget to $3.3 T. Now instead of a $2.2T deficit each year, it will be $330B. We still have work to do to balance the budget, but cutting out $1.8 T per year or $18+ T over 10 years in a single year is huge and unprecedented. Give credit where credit is due. They did as they promised they would. All the numbers above are avail at the CBO. Get the facts, less emotion. I’m happy.

-17 ( +7 / -24 )

Piling on more debt while throwing people off healthcare?

Is this sick taunting of the less fortunate?

11 ( +16 / -5 )

Dang,,looks like Trump gets his way again and the anti Trump JT pundits are proven wrong , again.

-10 ( +6 / -16 )

Glad I live here in Japan where health care is available. 12 million more Americans are going to go without it.

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Piling on more debt while throwing people off healthcare?

I know many people from 22 to 60 years old that have no disability, and do not need to take care of anyone (parent, spouse, children) with health problems or disabilities, they simply do not want to work (at least not full time), but all are using Medicaid.

There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG to tell these people if you want health insurance then work, and get insurance through work. That is not piling on the debt, this is why they shouldn’t be on it.

-18 ( +4 / -22 )

Biggest tax cut for the middle class. Thank you Mr Trump!

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One of the bill’s biggest achievements, as far as trump and his friends are concerned, is the enshrinement of massive tax cuts for the wealthy, originally created in Trump’s 2017 tax bill. The tax breaks — which saw the rich save an average of tens of thousands on their annual taxes compared to a couple hundred bucks for middle-income Americans - were set to expire on New Year’s Day 2026 and will now be extended permanently.

According to the Tax Foundation, an international policy think tank, the bill will reduce federal tax revenue by over $5 trillion over the next 10 years. That's NOT good.

In order to pay for the extension of the tax cuts, trump & the GQP have taken a hacksaw to programs that benefit low-income Americans, including massive reductions to spending on Medicaid and food assistance programs that will affect millions.

In the end, corporations and the wealthy will get to keep paying low taxes forever, while low-income Americans are expected to lose over $1,600 a year in take-home pay.

Therefore, $3.3 trillion added to the deficit over the decade and 11.8 million more people will go without health coverage.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

I know many people from 22 to 60 years old that have no disability, and do not need to take care of anyone (parent, spouse, children) with health problems or disabilities, they simply do not want to work (at least not full time), but all are using Medicaid.

I’ll bet my life savings that’s not true.

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Debt increases, fewer poor people have healthcare ,and more defense spending which will surpass a trillion dollars.

That include $145 for immigration enforcement like $45 Billion going to ICE funding as well as the building of new detention centers for anyone he does not like $5 Billion for Customs and Borders.

Which means anyone can be detained and deported regardless of status (legal and illegal).

Can anyone say precursors to a recession and a corrupt dictatorship?

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Which means anyone can be detained and deported regardless of status (legal and illegal).

Not without a warrant

Debt increases, fewer poor people have healthcare ,and more defense spending which will surpass a trillion dollars.

Yes, we need a powerful military and able-bodied people and illegals should not get any healthcare benefits.

-18 ( +4 / -22 )

bass4funk

Piling on more debt while throwing people off healthcare?

I know many people from 22 to 60 years old that have no disability, and do not need to take care of anyone (parent, spouse, children) with health problems or disabilities, they simply do not want to work (at least not full time), but all are using Medicaid.

You are claiming to know many unemployed people on Medicaid. Even from Japan. Choose better friends.

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What Trump’s ‘one big beautiful’ tax-and-spending bill means for your money

https://www.cnbc.com/guide/what-trumps-one-big-beautiful-bill-means-for-your-money/

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bass4funk

A reverse Robin Hood: steal from the poor and give to the rich.

Able-bodied people and illegals should not get a dime.

Nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Ironically, rural Trump voters will feel much of the pain as their hospitals close and their Medicaid vanishes.

Yes, so if they can work, they should, they should never mooch off the government and illegals should ever get any benefits

How is hospitals closing anything to do with undocumented migrants? One in four rural hospitals are likely to close as a result of this bill. It affects everybody.

Indeed. The fiscal irresponsibility of the GOP is astounding.

Just absolute false and stupid nonsense. You always get the facts wrong.

Nope. I quoted the article: "expected to pile an extra $3.4 trillion over a decade onto the country's fast-growing deficits"

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To be fair, considering around 40% of US people are obese and tens of millions relying on these so called aid, i get the feeling the whole thing was not working anyway and likely being hugely misused and being too overly reliant on it. Maybe is time for a change. We shall see what will happen in 5 years.

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This bill also mean no free lunch in schools and no funding for foster children waiting to get adopted. They cut all the programs for poverty-stricken kids and raise the national debt anyway.

Where is all the money going besides in addition to $100 millions of doallars the tax payers must pay so Trump can go play golf at his own golf course and dismal military parades?”

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The House Speaker had to threaten GOP politicians to vote for the bill to reach the numbers needed.

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Last week there was a story that said democrats said the plans were in tatters because of the Senate parliamentarian.

Sounds like the welfare cuts are associated with young able bodied men having to work to qualify for free stuff. The democrats can be the party of the free loaders.

Going forward I expect there will be further bills aimed at addressing more of the overspending that the government is engaged in. Due to weird rules about this budget reconciliation there were things that could not be included.

Most important, making the tax settings permanent and averting a ridiculous tax hike next year has been achieved. US law making rules are geared towards reckless overspending and high tax, but the day has been saved here.

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Yes, we need a powerful military

Why?

To defend "us" against "them" who are building up their military to defend "them" against "you"?

Seems a bit pointless to me.

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This bill also mean no free lunch in schools and no funding for foster children waiting to get adopted. They cut all the programs for poverty-stricken kids and raise the national debt anyway

The fiscal conservatives will have to wait until at least 2029 before they can rise from the grave.

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According to the Tax Foundation, an international policy think tank, the bill will reduce federal tax revenue by over $5 trillion over the next 10 years. That's NOT good.

Why is it not good for government to have less money (assuming that that turns out to be the case, which is dubious compared to what crashing the economy with unexpected tax hikes would have likely done)?

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

In order to pay for the extension of the tax cuts,

Spending requires being paid for.

Gathering revenues at a different tax rate than otherwise would be the case is not something that needs to be paid for.

The deficit is revenues minus spending. Tax is revenues, it is not spending.

This is common sense yet the political hyperbole oof opponents sews it turned on its head.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

The correct assessment of the Bill will be surely be known by July 4th next year.

How will all of the acts stand up over the coming months?

Logical maths - not spin - is not being applied by one or both parties on many issues.

Democrats claiming it will add $3.3T to the debt while Trump claiming a reduction to $330b.

Both can't be right. And we are not talking about ethical or social differences - just money.

Many of the components are like this - distinctive differences in applied mathematics.

Whose number crunchers/fortunetellers are playing it straight?

There will no doubt be some successes (as otherwise it will be the Biggest Ugliest Bill) and there will be some failures.

The proof will be in the pudding - not the recipe.

Relying on Spin is not Reliable.

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Nothing to do with what I am talking about.

I’m talking about it.

Ironically, rural Trump voters will feel much of the pain as their hospitals close and their Medicaid vanishes.

Again, illegals and able-bodied should not get one penny.

How is hospitals closing anything to do with undocumented migrants? One in four rural hospitals are likely to close as a result of this bill. It affects everybody.

Easy, lead with background checks, you can track and use employee records, school records, medical records, immigration documents, and you can easily verify that, and if they don’t qualify, then they get nothing, if there is indeed a serious medical issue that is preventing them from working, then they should get benefits

Nope. I quoted the article: "expected to pile an extra $3.4 trillion over a decade onto the country's fast-growing deficits"

Quoting that number without context is misleading. Yes, the bill is projected to add $3.4 trillion over 10 years—but and again, BUT that’s before accounting for the economic growth, job creation, and long-term savings it generates. Investing in infrastructure, education, clean energy, and healthcare grows the tax base, reduces emergency spending, and boosts productivity—all of which help offset the cost.

Also, critics, moaners and complainers love to cite the gross number but ignore the fact that many of the same people had no issue exploding the deficit with tax cuts for the wealthy that delivered little to no return. At least this spending has a clear, measurable benefit to working families and the economy.

If we’re going to talk about deficits guy, let’s be honest about what creates them—and what actually gives something back. Saying “No or Nope” without any evidence backup shows you’re only focusing on the liberal emotionally ego damaged argument of the issue.

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okinawarides

Dang,,looks like Trump gets his way again and the anti Trump JT pundits are proven wrong , again.

What? Did some people say that it wouldn't pass? I didn't see any.

Considering the GOP have majorities in the house and senate, why wouldn't it?

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bass4funk

How is hospitals closing anything to do with undocumented migrants? One in four rural hospitals are likely to close as a result of this bill. It affects everybody.

Easy, lead with background checks, you can track and use employee records, school records, medical records, immigration documents, and you can easily verify that, and if they don’t qualify, then they get nothing, if there is indeed a serious medical issue that is preventing them from working, then they should get benefits

Which has nothing to do with hospitals closing, which is what I am talking about.

I guess you can't answer the question, so you are avoiding it.

Nope. I quoted the article: "expected to pile an extra $3.4 trillion over a decade onto the country's fast-growing deficits"

Quoting that number without context is misleading. Yes, the bill is projected to add $3.4 trillion over 10 years—but and again, BUT that’s before accounting for the economic growth, job creation, and long-term savings it generates.

It is accounting for that.

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With its cuts to Medicaid and food stamps and tax cuts to the wealthy, it certainly looks like a mean and cold hearted bill. Maybe this is a wake up call for many voters.

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Why?

Hippie love, flower power won’t repel our enemies, it just won’t.

To defend "us" against "them" who are building up their military to defend "them" against "you"?

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran…

Seems a bit pointless to me.

Well, it’s not up for you to decide that. Let the geopolitical experts who get paid to assess the the threat and need.

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Which has nothing to do with hospitals closing, which is what I am talking about.

I explained that already

I guess you can't answer the question, so you are avoiding it.

I didn’t avoid it, I answered it.

Nope. I quoted the article: "expected to pile an extra $3.4 trillion over a decade onto the country's fast-growing deficits"

But for safe measure:

Quoting that number without context is misleading. Yes, the bill is projected to add $3.4 trillion over 10 years—but and again, BUT that’s before accounting for the economic growth, job creation, and long-term savings it generates. Investing in infrastructure, education, clean energy, and healthcare grows the tax base, reduces emergency spending, and boosts productivity—all of which help offset the cost.

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BUT that’s before accounting for the economic growth, job creation, and long-term savings it generates.

The only thing trickling is the slow thought process of people who believe trickle down economics has ever worked.

Here’s an article on a 50 year study that maga will dismiss and claim to know more than the economic experts who authored it:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tax-cuts-rich-50-years-no-trickle-down/

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What? Did some people say that it wouldn't pass? I didn't see any.

”nobody ever said that….” defense/deflection after losing yet again- activated!

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

It does. Look at at California, the robbing Paul to give to Peter way hasn’t worked out at all.

Can you explain how tax cuts for the rich have impacted California? You realise you are arguing against yourself already, right?

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that’s before accounting for the economic growth, job creation, and long-term savings it generates

Didn't happen last time and it won't happen this time.

Investing in infrastructure

That's been cut.

education

That's been cut.

clean energy

That's been eliminated.

and healthcare

Also cut, lol.

I'm sure the tens of billions extra "investment" in deporting the immigrant workforce in America will do wonders for the economy.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Heard the news today - oh boy, the first thing that came to mind was, "be careful what you wish for"! This old saw exists for a reason. And once again we are reminded that a felon in the White House, the GOP control of both Houses and the eternal shame of another genocide in America's history are the toxic gifts of Biden and the bought and paid for Dems that keep giving. A "hard rain's gonna fall" on the country as MAGA wakes up to the wrecking ball crew they voted for.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Can you explain how tax cuts for the rich have impacted California? You realise you are arguing against yourself already, right?

California doesn’t even have money to pay for their stupid Highspeed rail no one will ever use and they still want more money from Federal government waste more money on their crazy pet failed projects

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

they still want more money from Federal government

California contributes far more money to federal revenue than it receives from the federal government.

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It’s so difficult to understand what the right attitude to take here is.

On the one hand, it’s just the right thing to do to do our best to stop the Trump/MAGA regime from harming the country and the citizens, at every horrible choice the regime makes. We don’t want anyone to suffer, even if we disagree with their beliefs.

But on the other hand, Republican voters have been so brainwashed, misled, lied to, and just generally stoked so far, that part of me thinks that they won’t learn the consequences of their actions until they feel the pain themselves. So, is it better to leave them to their own consequences until they wake up? FAFO.

But then again, even if we do all we can to fight back, are we keeping them from feeling that pain and keeping them from waking up to the reality? On top of that, the Republicans will just lie as usual when things go wrong, and blame others for their own failings, and unfortunately the uneducated and misled voters will just believe them, perpetuating the cycle again.

The state of this country is an absolute disgrace, and it truly seems to be the time of the downfall of the US. The villains are winning.

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California contributes far more money to federal revenue than it receives from the federal government

Huh, really now?

https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/05/california-budget-revision-may-2025/

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2025/02/04/californias-20-billion-unemployment-debt-is-looking-like-a-political-hot-potato/

https://www.cagw.org/california-high-speed-rail-still-multi-billion-dollar-boondoggle/

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California doesn’t even have money to pay for their stupid Highspeed rail no one will ever use and they still want more money from Federal government waste more money on their crazy pet failed projects

What are you talking about? Are you seriously insinuating that California doesn’t have money and is a financial burden on the country, when it is actually gives more than it receives??

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Major, yes, surprising, no. It was clear from the start that almost all the republicans pretending to have misgivings about the bill were doing just that: pretending. Apart from the two who held out (and I hope they have good security), the rest were always going to buckle when the pressure was applied.

The problem I see, besides the bill itself, is that Americans are, as a rule, too fat and complacent (and I mean that in literal and figurative terms) to really care. They will post on social media about how outraged they are, but in the end they probably won't do anything. They're too comfortable. And I think republicans know this.

I saw a neat quote online today: "it will get worse before it gets worse".

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California doesn’t even have money to pay for their stupid Highspeed rail no one will ever use and they still want more money from Federal government waste more money on their crazy pet failed projects

So, trickle down economics failed only in California or do government bills passed by Congress apply to all 50 states?

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The Big Disgusting Bill has passed and America is damaged almost beyond repair. The first task of the next President will be to resurrect America by repealing this disgusting bill.

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Dang,,looks like Trump gets his way again and the anti Trump JT pundits are proven wrong , again.

What? Did some people say that it wouldn't pass? I didn't see any.

Sure, that is what selective vision looks like.

Considering the GOP have majorities in the house and senate, why wouldn't it?

Yes, Trump election victory was a clean sweep, true.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

What are you talking about? Are you seriously insinuating that California

I’m from California and I’m just telling the truth. Hate the message, don’t hate the messenger.

doesn’t have money and is a financial burden on the country, when it is actually gives more than it receives??

Then why is the deficit so out of control?

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

the “economic experts” were just wrong about the jobs report and unemployment rate. Again.

I think you guys need some new experts.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

The US health system is the worst by far in the industrialized world. No universal health care, and now reduced coverage for tens of millions of US citizens makes American health services a third world standard. With the current secretary of health killing medical science and research it just beggars belief that the nation with the largest economy can have the worst medical system.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

I’m from California and I’m just telling the truth. Hate the message, don’t hate the messenger.

How long again since you last lived there?

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the “economic experts” were just wrong about the jobs report and unemployment rate. Again. 

I think you guys need some new experts.

It’s a 50 year global study.

Sure, focus on what ‘just’ happened.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

--California contributes far more money to federal revenue than it receives from the federal government

Huh, really now?

Yes. Really.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

This Congress should be absolutely ashamed of itself. Even worse than the Congress of 2003 that approved the attack on Iraq with only one dissent.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

It’s a 50 year global study. 

Uh-huh...lol

Sure, focus on what ‘just’ happened.

The failed state has so much money and yet, they can't fix their 52k homeless and exodus problem

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

How long again since you last lived there?

I go every year and it's getting worse each and every time.

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17 million off health care.

18 million kids lose school meals.

3 million lose food assistance.

But hey! Tax cuts for the top 1%!

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I’m from California and I’m just telling the truth. Hate the message, don’t hate the messenger.

I’m not hating the messenger, I’m challenging your implication.

Then why is the deficit so out of control?

Try reading the articles you post and not cherry-picking information.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

--Yes. Really.

ROFL!

ROFL all you want. It won't change the fact that California pays far more ($78 billion more) to the federal government than it receives.

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-contribute-the-most-and-least-to-federal-revenue/

If you've got "alternative facts", I'd love to see them.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Old fashioned smoke and mirrors, sleight of hand, give with one had take away with the other, tax and spend.

President Trump is a sly old fox.

Sometimes a sheep in wolfs clothing. The next moment a born-again monetarist.  

The big beautiful billl, could be simply another back door borrowing.    

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/one-big-beautiful-bill-pros-cons/

-8 ( +0 / -8 )

bass4funk

I guess you can't answer the question, so you are avoiding it.

I didn’t avoid it, I answered it.

You didn't mention rural hospital closures once.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

American will reap what they sowed with Republican, starting with bank collapsing starting this summer,this was the nail in the coffin for America economy

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The US health system is the worst by far in the industrialized world. No universal health care, and now reduced coverage for tens of millions of US citizens makes American health services a third world standard. With the current secretary of health killing medical science and research it just beggars belief that the nation with the largest economy can have the worst medical system.

Calling the U.S. healthcare system the “worst by far” among industrialized nations is not just wrong—it’s a lazy, one-dimensional take that ignores reality. Yes, there are major flaws. High costs, uneven access, and coverage gaps are real and need serious attention. But to claim it’s some kind of third-world mess is completely disconnected from the facts. Let’s be clear: the United States is, and has long been a global leader in medical innovation. From groundbreaking surgeries to cutting-edge cancer treatments, from top-ranked hospitals to pharmaceutical research, American medicine consistently sets the pace. The clinical trials that shape modern medicine? The vast majority happen in the U.S., I have only used the private healthcare system and I never had a problem and I have had always top-notch care.

Universal healthcare may sound great in theory, and sure, it works to varying degrees in other countries. But those systems have their own issues—long wait times, limited specialist access, and heavy bureaucracy. The U.S. model is different: it’s driven by choice, competition, and private innovation. No system is perfect, but ours isn’t some dystopian outlier, not even remotely close, I have tried both and I prefer the US system.

And why do liberals have to turn this particular issue always into a political purge? That’s not the answer. Blaming one party while ignoring decades of shared dysfunction misses the point. Healthcare reform in America has stalled under both parties. Real progress means real conversations, something the left hates. If we want change, we need less rage and more reason. Let’s focus on solutions, better access, smarter spending, and more accountability, Universal Healthcare is not the way to go for the U.S..

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

The world needs Donald Trump, to bring us all to our senses, shake us all out of a god given belief to entitlement, smug complacency, something for nothing. 

And you will hate him for it.  

Then a silent majority will vote for him. again and again.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

So, since we all missed you talking about it, let’s hear about the rural hospital closures, bass4funk.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

Then a silent majority will vote for him. again and again.

Silent? They are far from that. Except when faced with uncomfortable facts. Then they get real coy.

Again and again? When will that be exactly? When he’s 82?

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Win? The Demented Loser just guaranteed a Blue Wave in 2026/28...

Want to know how "popular" this bill is?

"Results of surveys on Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ from the Washington Post, Pew Research Centre, Fox News, Quinnipiac University and the Kaiser Family Foundation, showing disastrous net approval ratings of -19, -20, -21, -26, and -29 percent respectively."

Even Fox couldn't spin how much this bill is hated...

And just wait until those millions of poor MAGA voters in Mississippi, West Virginia, and Arkansas get tossed off Medicare, get their SNAP subsidies eliminated, and kiss goodbye the free school lunches their kids get...while the richest get a tax break to buy another Mercedes...

Big Billionaire Bonanza indeed...

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Another outstanding win for Trump.

Whether you like it, or not.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

Bass4funk,

So, what happens to people in rural areas who don’t “refuse to work” and don’t “abuse the system” when they get sick and their hospitals are gone?

I guess that’s a big part of MAGA, not caring one iota about anyone else. As long as misery is being delivered to “illegals”, “libs”, “the left” or whoever else Trump tells you to target. And, as long as you get to proclaim that you “are winning”.

These are the main things.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

Perhaps the best President ever. Either Trump or Reagan.

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

Bob Fosse

No third term for President Trump, both congress senate will never sanction the thought.

JD Vance is hovering lurking in the back ground.

Politically, a Grim Reaper, Vance is a grinning assassin waiting to pounce.

In many respects Vance is the politician to President Trump realtor.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

There goes the US further down the drain.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Wé will see what good and bad come from the results.

It’s like an experiment in my opinion.

Neither white nor black will be the results.

Will the USA keep the world economic lead for next decade thanks to this bill ?

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

It’s like an experiment in my opinion.

Just look at Japan. Country (government) going into debt, elites cash rich earn easy money (don't believe me, go to France and see how Japanese money is spent by the elites), average people work their backside off, for longer, to pay off the country's debt.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

On what planet is DEBT a good thing?

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Happy Birthday America, Trump's just delivered huge tax and regulatory relief via OBBB, while downsizing inefficient wasteful Federal Govt., while empowering both the private sector and State Govt.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

Huge win for border security - 170 billion

tell that to the 11 million Americans thatll lose their medicaid, latest study shows that an estiated 50000 AMericans will liely die without that support, these are lederly the poorest Americans, guess which states this proporional affects the most , yes red once.

Just like his 1st term and the same and only legislation that Trump passed, massive tax cuts for the richest AMericans. This time around its expected to raise the debt by a record 10trillion, and Trump record.

Get this the Big BS bill is all for the richest AMricans all becuase they want a 1.5% cut in their taxes.

I expect a bloodbath come the midterms, even worse than in 2018

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What I wonder is why the Republican holdouts in Congress suddenly flipped after being summoned to the Oval Office.

They all looked grim. What were they threatened with?

I suspect it was something along the lines of no federal funds at all to their state.

Because they realized there will be plenty of time to address some of their concerns and amend the bill down the line.

Alaska was bribed in the Senate for the key vote by being excluded from Medicaid and SNAP cuts. Nothing smells worse than rotten politics.

If Murkowski didn't agree with some of the provisions she could have tanked the bill easily.

Yes, the US does have a pathetic healthcare system.

Not at all.

Private Equity acquires hospitals by borrowing let’s say $1 billion (a real situation), puts half into their pockets and burdens the hospital with the remainder of the debt.

So what's the problem? Should doctors work for free?

They then cut everything they can in the operation to bleed it dry. Then another company buys the land under it and the hospital is now a tenant paying rent. The company borrows to buy the land, then takes half.

The hospital goes bankrupt and the Private Equity firm and the other company are off the hook and have made out like the bandits they are. It’s a disgrace.

Fully 1/3rd of deaths in the US are caused by a medical mistake.

Wrong diagnosis, wrong prescription, wrong dosage, wrong strength, given to wrong patient, not given at all, etc.

Happens everywhere, this is not an American isolated case.

Up to 400,000 deaths, but record keeping is poor by incompetence or design.

At the same time, we have to be honest: this isn’t the whole story of American health care, you always like to twist the facts. For every bad actor, there are thousands of doctors, nurses, researchers, and staff who get up every day to save lives—often under insane pressure and broken management. The U.S. isn’t a failed medical state—it’s the home of world-leading innovation, from cancer treatments to emergency trauma care to the COVID vaccines that helped pull the entire planet out of a global crisis, remember "Operation Warp Speed"

People from around the world still come here for treatment when it really matters. And yes, medical mistakes happen,wrong meds, wrong dosage, a diagnosis missed, yes, it happens. But the often-quoted claim that a third of all U.S. deaths are due to medical errors is based on rough estimates and debated data. Mistakes happen in every country, because medicine is complex and we are human. What we need is real reform: stop reckless financial takeovers, support frontline staff, make hospitals more transparent and accountable. I get it, I agree, but come on and let’s stop pretending the entire system is a scam or that the people inside it are villains. False narratives and overly gross accusations won't help the argument. We fix this by standing up for what’s right, calling out the corruption, yes, but also protecting and investing in the parts of the system that work, and in the people who still care enough to fight for it, I will still take our system over anyone else's hands down.

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YrralToday  10:27 am JST

American will reap what they sowed with Republican, starting with bank collapsing starting this summer, this was the nail in the coffin for America economy

Care to meet here in September to discuss?

Stock market record high, jobs report good, inflation stable, ... what specifically in the bill will collapse the banking system? If the US banks collapse, how will the rest of the world be affected? So, only the US is doomed?

Can we discuss SlowJoe's "Inflation Reduction Act" impact? Not even an attempt to get spending, present or future, under control. Pure pork.

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There are liars, damn liars, and the most egregious of all, MAGA liars...

“Medicaid, we’re not going to do anything with that,” Trump said in the Oval Office in January.

“Medicare and Medicaid, none of that stuff is going to be touched,” he told Hannity in February.

“Here’s what I want on Medicaid: We’re not touching anything,” he said next to Johnson in May.

MAGA-world; all lying, all the time..

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