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Vance was slick. It’s a shame he’s tied to Donald Trump, who has claimed vice presidents have “virtually no impact.” We can thus assume Vance would have no impact.

It is ironic, however, that Vance and Trump repeatedly assert that Vice President Kamala Harris has had a dramatic negative impact — when Trump, himself, continually emphasizes that vice presidents are practically inconsequential.

-9 ( +13 / -22 )

Vance: Something that is different between the US and Finland is we have much higher rates of drug addiction and mental illness.

Everyone Else: (What?)

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Vance was slick. It’s a shame he’s tied to Donald Trump, who has claimed vice presidents have “virtually no impact.” 

He should be careful. Look what happened to Mike Pence. Trump has a history of tossing people under the bus!

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"I've become friends with school shooters" -Tim Walz

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It is ironic, however, that Vance and Trump repeatedly assert that Vice President Kamala Harris has had a dramatic negative impact — when Trump, himself, continually emphasizes that vice presidents are practically inconsequential.

Sure a big Kamala supporter for a supposed Republican eh?

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I wonder if this will be as pointless as the other debate, which probably changed the mind of exactly nobody.

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Sure a big Kamala supporter for a supposed Republican eh?

This mindset is a great problem. It’s our team against yours. My guy against yours.

There are honorable representatives on both sides.

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"Vance: Something that is different between the US and Finland is we have much higher rates of drug addiction and mental illness. Everyone Else: (What?)"

What hard to understand about that? Need some help ?

-13 ( +7 / -20 )

I've become friends with school shooters" -Tim Walz

Did he really say that? When I googled it, I could only find it in the dankest corners of X.

Is there video on YouTube yet?

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Megan Thee StallionToday 11:24 am JST

"Vance: Something that is different between the US and Finland is we have much higher rates of drug addiction and mental illness. Everyone Else: (What?)"

What hard to understand about that? Need some help ?

The question was about gun violence. People don't become insane when they move from Finland to the US.

4 ( +12 / -8 )

2017 to 2021.

The peaceful years when the "russian collusion" was everything we had to worry about.

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Vance is doing better than I expected, but he’s still losing. Walz is giving sincere real solutions, vance is rehashing the same bs non solutions.

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The question was about gun violence. People don't become insane when they move from Finland to the US.

But he is right, it's a fact we have much higher rates of drug use and mental illness, those are factors in this.

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2017 to 2021. The peaceful years when the "russian collusion" was everything we had to worry about.

Looking back ..you right. 2017-21 were more peaceful.

-9 ( +9 / -18 )

MAGA the Stallion,I lived in peace all my life in America,I never was threatening by foreigner in America

0 ( +9 / -9 )

Still undecided who to vote for. Watching this debate will help with choices.

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They should gave ended this after Walz wouldn’t admit he lied about being in Tianamen Square, called himself a knucklehead and then said he is friends with school shooters.

its over. No way this Walz guy can be VP. He makes Biden look competent and mentally acute in comparison.

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Still undecided who to vote for. Watching this debate will help with choices.

Yup! I'm all in for Harris/Walz.

Say no to elitist New York real estate developers, and weird venture capital vultures.

2 ( +14 / -12 )

Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney and Taylor Swift support us! Maya Angelou!

lol

-8 ( +10 / -18 )

I wish Tim's prep team had coached him to smile. His answers are good, but his frown and sad eyes aren't helping.

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finally richToday  11:27 am JST

2017 to 2021.

The peaceful years when the "russian collusion" was everything we had to worry about.

That's exactly what broke America. Russians in the Oval Office tending to their Employee of the Year™ Donald Trump™. It seems that Mr. Trump never met a grift he wouldn't pursue.

3 ( +10 / -7 )

They should gave ended this after Walz wouldn’t admit he lied about being in Tianamen Square, called himself a knucklehead and then said he is friends with school shooters.

Amen brother. As a supporter of one of the stupidest, and most dishonest people to ever disgrace the whitehouse. I am outraged (outraged) that Walz may have lied. lmao

He makes Biden look competent and mentally acute in comparison.

Good thing Biden isn't running. I'd take Walz all day everyday over Trump or Vance. It's over.

5 ( +14 / -9 )

its over. No way this Walz guy can be VP.

lol

0 ( +10 / -10 )

JD crushed that guy. No doubt whatsoever.

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he lied about being in Tianamen Square,

I don’t care. Neither do most Americans.

Lying about Haitians eating pets is a helluva lot more consequential.

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BBToday  11:47 am JST

I wish Tim's prep team had coached him to smile. His answers are good, but his frown and sad eyes aren't helping.

He's rightfully worried his side is going to lose.

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I’m sure the Dems are thinking, damn it! We should’ve picked Shapiro

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Yeah, the China question didn’t help Walz.

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JD giving everyone a clear understanding of what his initials stand for - "Just Dumb"....

Hey JD, do you once again want to tell us you "created" you unhinged Haitian pet eating theory?

And someone would like to have a word with you when you say "childless women are useless"...Mother Theresa...

Or how about this gem from as recent as 2020; “Trump has just so thoroughly failed to deliver on his economic populism,”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/j-d-vance-stunning-2020-164432408.html

MAGA-world is crashing and burning....and it's about time...

0 ( +9 / -9 )

I'd take Walz all day everyday over Trump or Vance. It's over.

Hmm...not so sure bout that yet.

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The rivals were expected to clash early and often at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York, with each trying to land a lasting blow at the last remaining debate before the Nov. 5 presidential election between Trump and Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris.

Vance was well-spoken, offered almost nothing on policy, and was a stark contrast to his boss' babbling.

It's not clear what he could be offering but he could be the next MAGA leader over the Trump spawn or other MAGA stars.

Walz did not land any hits and Vance was effective at sidestepping even the points about the Jan 6 insurrection and election denial.

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I’m sure the Dems are thinking, damn it! We should’ve picked Shapiro

I bet a lot of Repubs are saying "we ditched Mike Pence for this Loser"....especially one watching from Mar-A-Lago...

ROFL..

2 ( +9 / -7 )

JD crushed that guy. No doubt whatsoever.

Yes. In terms of lying JD did crush it indeed. No doubt whatsoever.

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Simulcast: CBS News Vice Presidential Debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Nj3qO6dzg

Scroll to around 1.58

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

. I am outraged (outraged) that Walz may have lied. lmao

may have?

DID.

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Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney and Taylor Swift support us! Maya Angelou!

Sanders and Angelou are excellent examples of American moral fortitude .

I think most would value their endorsement over Kid Rock and Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Yes. In terms of lying JD did crush it indeed. No doubt whatsoever.

”leftist projection”

what did JD lie about, specifically?

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I bet a lot of Repubs are saying "we ditched Mike Pence for this Loser"....especially one watching from Mar-A-Lago...

ROFL..

not at all.

i notice none of your posts reference things said in the debate. Why?

Walz: im friends with school shooters! lol

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DID.

Yes, and as a supporter of the biggest liar in the history of the Whitehouse, I am sure you find that contact outrageous! Give us a break.

what did JD lie about, specifically?

He still denies Trump lost the 2020 elections. That right there is disqualifying. You have to be a real big loser to continue denying he lost despite even now.

Also his claims about the best way to fight carbon emissions is to move factories back here is a lie.

Claiming he and Trump want cleaner, safer water/environment is also a lie. They'll continue to push deregulation that will worsen pollution.

He also lied about Walz signing an abortion bill that prevents doctors from help fetuses that have survived an abortion attempt.

He also lied about never supporting a national abortion ban.

Need any more examples of the lies told by the weird vulture capitalist?

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None of those are “lies”

you just disagree with what he said as policy or as his own opinion.

Walz lied (he wasn’t in China, he didn’t deploy to the war) and then tried to talk around it without just admitting he lied.

-12 ( +7 / -19 )

Watched it now. Walz cited his memorized talking points better than his running mate, and Vance did pretty well against the opposing trio of Walz plus moderators.

-7 ( +9 / -16 )

Vance pretty sharp but evasive and weird.

Walz a bit clumsy. Not comfortable in this setting.

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I bet a lot of Repubs are saying "we ditched Mike Pence for this Loser"....especially one watching from Mar-A-Lago...

ROFL..

not at all.

New record set tonight - number of panic phone calls to Nikki Haley and Mike Pence...

i notice none of your posts reference things said in the debate. Why?

Uh, you missed the Pet eating and childless women's questions? Didn't pay much attention did you...

Walz: im friends with school shooters!

He said he'd become friends with the parents of Sandy Hook victims...get over it...

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He still denies Trump lost the 2020 elections.

it would be a lie if he said he thinks Trump lost when he doesn’t think so.

he truthfully admitted what he thinks rather than lie about it.

40% of Americans also feel the same way, by the way.

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I was impressed with Walz.

He would make a good junior high school teacher.

Vance sounded like a college professor.

-12 ( +5 / -17 )

Walz a bit clumsy. Not comfortable in this setting.

Very true

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it would be a lie if he said he thinks Trump lost when he doesn’t think so.

Yes, and it's delusional to still believe Trump lost. Just get over it already, it's so weak.

40% of Americans also feel the same way, by the way.

Great point. If a lot of people believe something that's not true, is true, it makes it true. Smart one.

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Uh, you missed the Pet eating and childless women's questions? 

There were no questions about those. thanks for commenting while not watching.

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He said he'd become friends with the parents of Sandy Hook victims...get over it...

no, he actually said he is friends with school shooters.

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

Watched it now. Walz cited his memorized talking points better than his running mate, and Vance did pretty well against the opposing trio of Walz plus moderators.

They tried very hard. Nora is a....anyway, Vance managed to take on all 3 of these people as if it was nothing.

-9 ( +6 / -15 )

Vance sounded like a college professor

You must have attended a crappy college if you think that.

He sounds and looks like a creepy schoolteacher the girls keep distance from.

Weird.

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None of those are “lies”

you just disagree with what he said as policy or as his own opinion.

He literally just answered your question, it had nothing to do with policy so why are you changing the subjest and hiding away from a question you asked?

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https://nypost.com/2024/10/01/us-news/walz-says-hes-become-friends-with-school-shooters-in-vp-debate-gaffe/

bwahahaha

zero credibility for those who deny Walz said this.

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You must have attended a crappy college if you think that. 

Really? What’s a good college supposedly?

He sounds and looks like a creepy schoolteacher the girls keep distance from. 

Walz?

Weird.

Well….

-15 ( +3 / -18 )

You must have attended a crappy college if you think that.

Oh yeah? Vance went to Yale. Do you know the status of Yale in the US?

And how about Walz calling himself a knucklehead?!?!

It's agreed!

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

After all the heat was put on Vance on sub-selecting words, I wanted to watch how Vance performed.

He was humble and genuine and clearly won the debate.

Now I can see why Trump picked him as his running mate.

I am an Independant.

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

Need those here to 100% prove that Amber Thurman died from being rejected to have an abortion and not from a reaction from the "100% safe and effective" abortion pills. Thanks!

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Megan Thee StallionToday 11:35 am JST

The question was about gun violence. People don't become insane when they move from Finland to the US.

But he is right, it's a fact we have much higher rates of drug use and mental illness, those are factors in this.

Locking up the guns is easier than locking up the young men.

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You are a man with multiple higher degrees in the sciences. 

How would you convince serious people that they are delusional on this score? 

Break it down for us.

It might have been interesting to hear your comments if you had actually seen the debate and understood the issues facing the American people.

-16 ( +0 / -16 )

None of those are “lies”

No, those are all lies JD Vance told.

You can't just wave it off with a summary, "None of that list of things you said are lies, you just disagree. duh-hur"

The truth is JD Vance did support a national abortion ban.

11 ( +14 / -3 )

I was impressed with Walz.

He would make a good junior high school teacher.

He's that weird uncle that you roll your eyes to when telling his life stories at Thanksgiving dinner.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

bwahahaha

zero credibility for those who deny Walz said this.

wow y'all really cling so hard to word mistakes but forget Trump and his team say something controversial every time he opens his mouth

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Oh yeah? Vance went to Yale. Do you know the status of Yale in the US?

Yes.

He wasn’t a professor there.

Bush 2 went to Yale. Did the professors at your college sound like him?

He's that weird uncle that you roll your eyes to when telling his life stories at Thanksgiving dinner

Walz weird? No.

Vance in the weird one. No contest there.

Creepy.

11 ( +15 / -4 )

No clear winner, unfortunately. Maybe Walz by a hair. But, it isn't gonna change any minds.

They need to keep campaigning and getting people to register and vote. Good media ads for the olds, and strong SNS presence for the yutes, will really help.

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So was Walz in China or Hong Kong during the Tianamen Square protest?

He did call himself a knucklehead.

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

why are you changing the subjest and hiding away from a question you asked?

how is it a “lie” and you a “liar” when you honestly answer what you think?

but it is a lie when you claim you were in China when you were really in Nebraska.

-12 ( +5 / -17 )

Not the sharpest tools in the shed, Walz wouldn't know the truth if its jump out the toilet and bit on the bum Vance at least is polite, intelligent, congenial, combative.

Walz does come over like a hoover salesman.

Throws rubbish all over your best carpet then the product fails to clean it up.

-12 ( +4 / -16 )

No clear winner, unfortunately. Maybe Walz by a hair. But, it isn't gonna change any minds

Sounds about right.

Maybe the advantage is with Harris/Walz as Trump is old and in severe mental decline.

Vance didn’t sound like a President.

Too weird and robotic.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

Sounds about right.

Only if you believe in fantasy tales

Maybe the advantage is with Harris/Walz as Trump is old and in severe mental decline.

Not what most of the headlines are saying

Vance didn’t sound like a President.

Then you didn't listen closely enough

Too weird and robotic.

Not even close

-13 ( +3 / -16 )

Was in Walz in China during the Tiananmen Square protests?

Easy answer-No.

Are Americans better off now than they were 4 years ago?

Easy answer--No.

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

3 separate Japanese friends/ex colleagues have texted me unsolicited.

common comment?

wow that old guy is a liar and what’s up with his strange faces?

two said he lied about being in China. Was clear to them.

one said he lied about that too and also when he said less illegals coming in now than before.

Even Japanese not involved at all with the US know better.

-13 ( +3 / -16 )

how is it a “lie” and you a “liar” when you honestly answer what you think?

but it is a lie when you claim you were in China when you were really in Nebraska.

If that is a lie it's his one lie compared to Trumps thousands of lies, if you believe everything Trump says out his mouth then you really need to understand how many contradictions revolve around that man. For those who don't know conmen are good at selling bs and telling you what you want to hear

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Even Japanese not involved at all with the US know better.

uh-huh, I believe you. Sure. Thanks for the laugh.

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Vance, what a deranged loser!

Just some facts:

Vance LIED about Trump's position on ACA

Vance LIED about calling for a National Abortion Ban

Vance LIED about immigration

Vance LIED about Springfield

Vance LIED about Trump's role on J6

Vance LIED by not admitting Biden won

He's just not any better than his master!

12 ( +16 / -4 )

I really feel the moderators were shocked when they gave him a chance to say the China trip accusation was a lie. They expected he would indignantly say “that’s not true! trump lies!”

bit he didn’t and started talking about growing up as a middle class kid riding bikes until the street lights came on and basketball and football and dancers and I’m a knucklehead ya know….

the answer he needed if he is an actual honest person: “no, I was not in China at that time and I apologize for my misleading and/or false statement”

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

Like banning abortion, supporting P2025 and that are borders are secure? A whole lotta people are convinced about these issues.

@b4f you support project 2025, your stance on everything would be different if you did not. Anyone who uses the phrase "illegals" supports Project 2025

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Walz weird? No.

Vance in the weird one. No contest there.

Creepy.

Walz weird? Yes. Creepier than tampons in boys' restrooms.

-13 ( +3 / -16 )

Walz also lied about his driving 600 miles to get an abortion story.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/walz-repeats-georgia-abortion-death-falsehood-decried-doctors-fearmongering

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

Walz also lied about his driving 600 miles to get an abortion story.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/walz-repeats-georgia-abortion-death-falsehood-decried-doctors-fearmongering

Does your back hurt from D riding Walz that much?

7 ( +10 / -3 )

BlacklabelToday  12:45 pm JST

3 separate Japanese friends/ex colleagues have texted me unsolicited.

common comment?

wow that old guy is a liar and what’s up with his strange faces? 

two said he lied about being in China. Was clear to them. 

one said he lied about that too and also when he said less illegals coming in now than before. 

Even Japanese not involved at all with the US know better. lied about being in China. Was clear to them

Cool story bro- unsubstantiated alleged conversations with irrelevant people- Well, I’m certainly convinced lol

9 ( +13 / -4 )

Cool story bro- unsubstantiated alleged conversations with irrelevant people- Well, I’m certainly convinced lol

I am an American voter in here "chatting" about U.S. politics with many non-Americans. So I guess that makes half the comments here irrelevant right?

-13 ( +2 / -15 )

Look, I grew up in a small rural Nebraska town, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies till the streetlights come on, and I’m proud of that service,"

that service? What service?

a visibly shaky Walz said. "I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms and then I used the GI bill to become a teacher." 

ok cool bio, Kamala. So why did you lie about being in China? (The question)

-13 ( +2 / -15 )

from D riding Walz 

someone is unfamiliar with usage of expressions and their meaning in English.

that term doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does. lol

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

He still denies Trump lost the 2020 elections.

it would be a lie if he said he thinks Trump lost when he doesn’t think so. 

he truthfully admitted what he thinks rather than lie about it. 

40% of Americans also feel the same way, by the way.

That 40% is popularly known as the kool-aid goon squad. Believing something and it actually being true are two different things.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

that service? What service?

Dur-hur, maybe the service he mentioned immediately after that line:

I joined the National Guard at 17.

Yeah. What service? I had noooo idea he was in the National Guard, huh.

ok cool bio, Kamala

Who?

9 ( +11 / -2 )

NOMINATION

I am an American voter in here "chatting" about U.S. politics with many non-Americans. So I guess that makes half the comments here irrelevant right?

No comment on JT is irrelevant and all carry equal weight. This is Japan, not the US.

Do you think only Americans should comment on American topics? Only Japanese on Japanese articles.

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That 40% is popularly known as the kool-aid goon squad. Believing something and it actually being true are two different things.

Yep, the only thing that matters is what happened on one day 3 1/2 years not anything since that time.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

Wow look at this chart:

https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-win-the-vp-debate-according-to-polls?tid=1727842133567

75% picked Walz to win. Then the debate actually started and……lol

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

I’m sure the Dems are thinking, damn it! We should’ve picked Shapiro

Right, Shapiro's position on Israel would be even further to the right of Vance. Shapiro would probably be promising American boots on the ground in the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria (not that they aren't already) and a economic bailout package for Israel which includes $50k USD for every Israeli living in the occupied West Bank. Free Health Care for all Israelis too! Oh wait, they already have that.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

No comment on JT is irrelevant and all carry equal weight. This is Japan, not the US.

Perhaps go to the person that I quoted and say the same to them. They said that these 3 Japanese individuals opinions were irrelevant. You won't though. Don't discount a Japanese person's opinion like this Wallace.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

someone is unfamiliar with usage of expressions and their meaning in English.

that term doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does. lol

How so? You can't keep the mans name out of your mouth, you're even stalking him online. If you're obsessed with him just say so lol

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Don't discount a Japanese person's opinion like this Wallace.

Back at you.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Yeah people close a thought by saying I’m “proud of that service” all the time when they have yet to mention anything that is…service.

that service world have to refer back to something said earlier, not said later.

left will try to defend ANYthing. Just give up and admit he’s wrong.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

The idea that the US election - probably the most consequential election there is - should be of interest to non Americans, and that some of them may even follow it and thus be informed on it - seemed an alien concept to them.

So Japanese people have a right to their opinion too. So how about go and say the same to Funkymojo?

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

left will try to defend ANYthing.

Hello, fire service? The world is on fire from the irony of the above remark, please come quickly.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

left will try to defend ANYthing. Just give up and admit he’s wrong.

And Repubs live in an alternate reality where Trump is a god of worship to them

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Yeah people close a thought by saying I’m “proud of that service” all the time when they have yet to mention anything that is…service.

Yeah, it was awkward wording, but obviously what he meant.

left will try to defend ANYthing. 

And Trump cultists will pick the most obscure drivel to whine about.

Just give it up already and find something else to whine about.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

So Japanese people have a right to their opinion too. So how about go and say the same to Funkymojo?

Yep I mentioned a Japanese perspective on what happened that was given to me and you see the hateful response. Lol

All good here, gonna save some good stuff got to save some for the inevitable “Walz clearly won despite several lies and missteps” leftist media that be posted here tomorrow.

-11 ( +1 / -12 )

The others just regurgitate the same stuff from idiotic media on this score.

Libs love talking points, that's just a fact

Vance isn’t stupid.

Exactly, Walz with the help of the moderators couldn't pull him down

He knows the stolen election idea is just more Trump garbage.

I disagree.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

How so? You can't keep the mans name out of your mouth, you're even stalking him online. If you're obsessed with him just say so lol

Cause what you describe here is not what that terms MEANS.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

And Trump cultists will pick the most obscure drivel to whine about.

Please tell me what Cards we are talkin about here because none of them are relevant enough to make opinions lol

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

So Japanese people have a right to their opinion too. So how about go and say the same to Funkymojo?

You should direct that query to blacklabel and bass etc. They love gatekeeping who can comment and who can’t. Look at their post histories. I said they are irrelevant because there is no proof the conversations ever took place and they are not here to speak for themselves.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

The idea that the US election - probably the most consequential election there is - should be of interest to non Americans, and that some of them may even follow it and thus be informed on it - seemed an alien concept to them.

I really don't care on this site if people from across the pond want to opine, they can, it's their right, but at the end of the day, it's just noise, they can't vote, they can't change or influence our election one way or another, so if this serves at blowing steam, not even sure why outsiders need to do this, but whatever. So other than this being a chat, Europeans have no sway. So their opinions are just that, opinions and nothing more.

-14 ( +0 / -14 )

Blacklabel

Walz also lied about his driving 600 miles to get an abortion story.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/walz-repeats-georgia-abortion-death-falsehood-decried-doctors-fearmongering

No, he didn't. It's not a lie.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

 I said they are irrelevant because there is no proof the conversations ever took place and they are not here to speak for themselves.

Go outside and look around you bro, all Japanese people. I hope you, Wallace, some dude and Cards fan will allow them to be able to speak their opinion and listen when they speak.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Unfortunately, or not, depending on how you look at it, which one 'supports Israel the most' is likely to be a moot point sooner than election day.

Thanks to members of the Israeli regime's militants obeying Netanyahu's orders and mass murdering 'Israeli civilians' almost a year ago, no one is acting as a restraining influence on him, so he's not going to accept Iran's measured, restrained response as the warning that he's reached the end of their patience and either stops, or they'll stop him, and escalate, so Iran will switch from warnings to war.

And I don't see any of the American 'leaders' not jumping in.

Now, the US and it's followers (including Japan) might win a slugfest with Iran, but only if it disengages from Russia, is willing to be driven out of Latin America and Africa by Latin Americans and Africans, and get locked out of Asia. But that's just not in America's character, and by trying to keep it all, it's going to lose everywhere.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

If you think it’s inappropriate to say something you probably shouldn’t say it.

Unless you’re a ‘free speech absolutist’. That’s what you claim to be right?

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Come on, Tim Walz is a "shifty slippery Susan" ,

I think Walz believes, convinced himself, he is that guy who stood in front of the tanks 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.

Walz insists he misspoke......

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The only vote posters have on JT are the plus/minus for their comments. We all know which one you get.

Thanks for proving that all of this is a popularity contest for upvotes. Too bad the livelihood of American people are treated this way.

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Both sides lie, so you'll not inspire any voters by pointing the finger at the other side and describing their lies.

This will all come down to what happens in the swing states. Harris has echoes of the Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign, i.e., a "of course she's going to win" smugness, but I would not be so sure. Fivethirtyeight says

.Right now, the margin between the candidates is less than 2 points in all seven key swing states. 

There will be more secret Republicans than Democrats, how many I can't say, but they will be out there. People who secretly want tax cuts or secretly don't want a woman.

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And in NYC interestingly, even the NYT called the left on their to grab and throw anything that sticks plan.

That doesn't address or refute anything I wrote.

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bass4funk

But that has nothing to do with Europeans not being able to vote in the US.

Millions of Europeans can vote. Like you, they have dual nationality.

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Again, Trump talked about this too. "I didn't even know she was black." Whine moar.

The good ol "You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song" argument. NasJay-Z

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Walz and Vance debate is much easier on the eye and ear.

A draw?

I would like to be so.

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Millions of Europeans can vote. Like you, they have dual nationality.

I'm not talking about them, I was talking on this site.

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man that guy just lied and lied. I see now why they abandoned the fact checks, except for JD.

Don't like it when the republican playbook is used against you?

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that also isn’t what that term means.

wasn’t Walz at the debate and the subject of this article? What other name would I type?

im done, go to HUB or local gaijin bar if you need to learn what that term means.

at least they taught you “dude”, so useful in adult conversation.

Hilarious, dude doesn't understand basic slang but thinks I'm Japanese. You're a funny guy BLabel very funny

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itsonlyrocknroll

Walz and Vance debate is much easier on the eye and ear.

A draw?

I would like to be so.

JD Vance was smoother, but more lies or no answers to the question. Walz had more substance.

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The real mistaken VP pick revealed himself on Tuesday nightand he wasn’t the man from Ohio.

Well done, JD Vance—your brilliant performance is just another reminder that Harris/Walz is the worst presidential ticket in US history.

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like Walz lied that Trump hasn’t paid taxes in 15 years.

Trump is a typical oligarch whose primary aim is shifting the tax burden form rentiers like him into the middle class.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-calls-tax-avoidance-smart-most-americans-call-it-unpatriotic-reuter-idUSKCN1242FV/

Facts real as a heart attack

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bass4funk

Millions of Europeans can vote. Like you, they have dual nationality.

I'm not talking about them, I was talking on this site.

On this site, there are also European Americans.

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JD Vance was smoother, but more lies or no answers to the question. Walz had more substance.

That would matter if substance mattered to the average voter. Sadly, the average voter is a moron and easily swayed, as evidenced by the allegedly still-close polls in what should by rights be a landslide democrat victory.

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Underworld I enjoyed this debate.

Both were respectful towards each other.

Both debated the subject/policies not each other.

In fact both displayed the decorum missing from any other debate.

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On this site, there are also European Americans.

Who? 1-2? Definitely not the majority of them, because they admitted that they aren’t

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Vance clearly was the dominate politician in this debate.

dominant.

Waltz looked unsure on his feet.

Walz

And uncomfortable. For the record on Waltz and his military career.

Walz

He has shown to have lied about his rank and was set to deploy to the Middle East and went over his commands heads to get out of duty.

commander's

We have have a word for that. Military members will know that word. Especially combat veterans. Waltz comes off slimy.

Walz

Hard to take seriously the illiterate wittering of someone who can't even spell the name (although it's easily found out through a Google search) of the person he's attacking.

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