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He did not yell. But it is true that the court judges in Israel are hostile to the people. They side with Hamas and work for Hamas. - NB

Israeli judges work for Hamas? Even by your standards that's a ridiculous statement. You get more and more desperate by the day.

This is Israel's phase 2. Starvation and ethnic cleansing. Trump has offered them the ethnic cleansing and they intend to take it.

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said Sunday that the government, under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Israel Katz, is working to establish a “migration administration” that will oversee the exodus of Palestinian residents from the Gaza Strip.

Envisioning the exodus, Smotrich estimated that “if we take out 5,000 a day it will take a year. The logistics are complicated because we need to know who is going to which country.”

Caucus chair Yuli Edelstein of Likud said at the meeting: “Things that for decades looked impossible now seem a super-legitimate subject for discussion. The right steps should be taken to usher in a new Middle East.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-government-establishing-migration-administration-for-gaza-exodus/

Wrong, that is not what Trump said, the media always do this with everything the guy says, they cherry-pick the words or sentences that meet and align with their selfish interests and run with it. - bass4funk

You then produce a group of cherry picked quotes non of which were said by Trump.

The only part you said by Trump was “they’re going to have much better housing... a permanent place for them.” which as the article you cherry picked from says

"Karoline Leavitt assured reporters that Palestinian displacement would be “temporary” and that no U.S. troops or tax dollars would be involved in Gaza. However, in a February 10 Fox News interview, Trump appeared to contradict this

Again, he also said, they absolutely would have the right to return once living establishments have been completed which is a good thing. - bass4funk

Trump says no right of return for Palestinians under Gaza plan - BBC

Trump says Palestinians won't have the right to return to Gaza under his plan: "I would own this" - CBS

Trump Says Palestinians Will Not Be Allowed to Return to Gaza Under His Proposal - New York Times

Trump says Palestinians wouldn't be allowed back into Gaza under his plan - NBC

Trump says Palestinians would not have right to return to Gaza under US 'ownership' plan - Le Monde

Trump says Palestinians would have no right to return under his plan for U.S. ‘ownership’ of Gaza - PBS

Next, just being born in a territory does not necessarily give them rights. For example, even if children of foreign parents are born in Japan, this does not grant them citizenship in Japan.

That's a rather odd, self-defeating argument to make when discussing Israel. You do know a vast majority of the Jewish population of Israel are only a few generations old right? 60,000 in 1918, 7.5 million in 2025.

To become a citizen of Israel you don't even have to be born there or have any ancestory from the region. Being Jewish is enough. So being Israeli is more akin to European Christians declaring themselves Japanese.

Arafat's father was from Gaza. Netanyahu's father was from Poland.

There was a lot more autonomy in the region until the European powers occupied it and carved it up according to their own whims. As per the Sykes-Picot agreement.

Hamas says an agreed second phase must now begin, leading to a permanent Israeli withdrawal and an end to the war.

Hamas says it is committed to the originally agreed ceasefire that had been scheduled to move into a second phase

"We will support their decision on next steps given Hamas has indicated it’s no longer interested in a negotiated ceasefire,” Hughes said.

The American statement doesn't line up with reality.

Israel has killed at least 118 Palestinians in Gaza since the start of the ceasefire on Jan 19th. This statistic doesn't include the dozens of babies and children that have frozen death as a result of Israel's destruction of Gaza's infrastructure and blockading of humanitarian aid.

Meanwhile in the West Bank Israel has displaced more than 400,000 Palestinians in its largest operation in decades. 

“Israel has negotiated in good faith since the beginning of this administration. . ."

"Good faith"? I disagree.

just under 10,000 civilian deaths. - iknowall

Where are you pulling that statistic from? Even Israel's own estimates of civilian deaths are much higher than 10,000.

Germany's likely next chancellor Friedrich Merz said on Monday he had invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to visit and would find a way for him to do so without being arrested under a warrant by the International Criminal Court.

Why bend over backwards to discredit international law for a war criminal?

Germans feel a special responsibility towards Israel due to the legacy of the Holocaust

If any true lessons of history were learnt then Germany's own history of genocide and ethnic cleansing (Not the only country guilty of such crimes) should make them more reluctant to be associated with a war criminal and a state on trial for genocide.

Make no mistake, the kidnapping and killing of these children is a despicable crime but don't let it over shadow the bigger picture of what is happening.

"About 30% of the 11,300 identified children killed in Gaza between last October and 31 August were younger than five. . . of those about 710 were babies aged under 12 months. Another 2,800 children killed have yet to be identified." - Save the Children 

That was a report from August of last year, so many more children have been killed since. Dead in incubators with no power, starving to death of malnutrition.

IDF spokesman Hagari made the "murdered in cold blood with bare hands " claim.

IDF claims to have had a post mortem done.

Neither of these has any credibility. - GuruMick

"Murdered in cold blood with their bare hands" is hardly the most forensic of definitions. This also coming from the mouth of Daniel Hagari the same Israeli spokesperson who called a calender a terrorist to try and justify the Israeli attack on the Al Shifa hospital.

Remember that CGI video of Hamas' "underground terror city"? I wonder what happened to that?

Trump stated "The civillization's been wiped out in Gaza" during the press conference with King Abdullah. Trump's Middle East advisor Netanyahu might want to remind him that he's wanted for war crimes and is currently under investigation by the ICJ for genocide. Trumps admissions might get him into trouble.

What the global community could be witnessing is a final conclusion, - itsonlyrocknroll

Are you sure you didn't intend to say 'solution' and not 'conclusion'?

Rebuilding Gaza is more than helping them. - bass4funk

Not if you ethnically cleanse them from Gaza and then prevent their return. You did read the headline right?

Gaza would be a real estate deal and development without any benefit to the current occupiers.

I disagree bass4funk

So how would Palestinians benefit from the redevelopment of Gaza if they been forcibly removed from it?

"The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger." - Dov Weisglass, Israeli Government Advisor, 2006

Weisglas denied saying this. - NB

It was widely reported by numerous media organisations. But whether he denies it or not doesn't really matter. The policy was put into direct effect as proven with the forced publication of the Gaza Red Line report I linked to earlier.

Netanyahu and Gallant are wanted international war criminals. In part because as the ICC states is their use of starvation as a weapon of war. 

Israel has been starving Gazan's for decades. Long before Oct 7th.

"The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger." - Dov Weisglass, Israeli Government Advisor, 2006

You can read Israel's own 2008 report on its harsh food limitations on Gaza as it was forced to publish the report by Israeli human rights group Gisha.

The report estimates 107 truckloads of food would be needed to offset starvation in Gaza. An average of 67 were being allowed in.

https://www.gisha.org/UserFiles/File/publications/redlines/red-lines-presentation-eng.pdf?__cf_chl_tk=X0q.Z8DCyaLFUhv1rIow400QH3qINAXui0akyXWX96w-1739058770-1.0.1.1-QiSVFQYBw573xWD8IoaZT7Viwkjo.77tedZ6lgocv3g

Here's a partial list of the types of foods Israel prohibits from entering Gaza. Why? For "security reasons"? Israel even bans A4 paper.

Prohibited Items*

sage

cardamom

cumin

coriander

ginger

jam

halva

vinegar

nutmeg

chocolate

fruit preserves

seeds and nuts

biscuits and sweets

potato chips

gas for soft drinks

dried fruit

fresh meat

"I welcome President Trump's bold plan. Gaza residents should be allowed the freedom to leave and emigrate, as is the norm around the world," Katz said on X.

I've demolished your school, your hospital, your place of worship and your home. Now I grant you the freedom to leave. 'Voluntarily' of course.

Vile.

Perhaps the Israelies can. . . show them what a democracy looks like. - Geeter Mckluskie

Kind of hard to lead the way on that one whilst also illegally occupying them.

It's a bit like a morbidly obese 600lb McDonalds addict showing someone what a diet looks like.

Nearly every building is ruble.

Freudian slip? Bob Fosse

I was thinking that myself. As much as Netanyahu clearly enjoyed Trump describing the complete and total destruction of Gaza he has caused over the last 15 months he is also probably inadvertently helping the genocide case against Israel.

Having watched the press conference in full now it really is stomach churning watching Trump lament all the death and destruction and how the whole of Gaza is now an unsafe. uninhabitable demolition site whilst the man responsible for it nods and grins along.

Sickening, truly sickening.

A convicted felon and an internationally wanted war criminal meet in the White House to discuss ethnic cleansing.

“You can’t live in Gaza right now."

“You look over the decades, it’s all death in Gaza,” Trump added. "This has been happening for years. It’s all death. If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people, permanently, in nice homes where they can be happy and not be shot and not be killed and not be knifed to death like what’s happening in Gaza.”

It's astounding the level of cognitive dissonance and moral duplicity required to say all of that when the man responsible for all that death and destruction is sat directly opposite you and you were the one that gave him the means to do it in the first place.

So if Gaza is "cleaned out" Who is moving in?

Palestinian Arabs continue to reject the two-state solution, as well as to reject any coexistence with the Israeli Jews. - NB

"On 18 July 2024, the Israeli parliament passed a resolution that rejected the establishment of a Palestinian state. The resolution passed in the Knesset with 68 votes in favour and nine against it."

The Palestinian Arabs continue with their false claim for the exclusive ownership of the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, and with their refusal to share the land with the other nation. - NB

"The 1977 election manifesto of the right-wing Israeli Likud party said: "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." Similar wording, such as referring to the area "west of the Jordan river", has also been used more recently by other Israeli politicians, including Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu on 18 January 2024."

NB, Points 1-3 sound good. 4 and 5 throw up some red flags.

I've edited point 4 to offer the Palestinian perpsective.

4) The European Jews (who arrived to the land in the framework of the Zionist project at the end of the 20th century AD) must renounce their false consciousness of being THE "ancestral" people and the exclusive "home owner" of the land.

Point 5 sounds like you think the people of Gaza should leave Gaza to allow for reconstruction. Kind of a tough sell for a people who were displaced twice by the Jewish state in 1948 and 1967 and still undergo daily displacement in the illegally occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. History record shows that when Israel removes Palestinians from their homes they are not allowed back.

Hamas on Sunday called for an "escalation in the resistance" against Israel 

Oh, that is going to work out real good.

Foregoing resistance is working out real good too. 2022 had the highest number of Palestinian casualties in the West Bank since 2005. Land theft and Illegal Israeli colony construction in the West is the highest it's ever been in the entire history of the conflict.

Israel won't end it's own occupation, U.S. support is unconditional and international law ineffectual so that leaves the Palestinians with a bit of a quandry. "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" as they say.

Israel gave them a chance to build a productive society in Gaza but instead they chose to build weapons and tunnels to be used for terrorism so time for the whole experiment to be eradicated. - iknowall

"In early 2006, Dov Weisglass, then a senior advisor to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, explained that Israeli policy was designed “to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger.” In 2012 it was revealed that in early 2008 Israeli authorities drew up a document calculating the minimum caloric intake necessary for Palestinians to avoid malnutrition so Israel could limit the amount of foodstuffs allowed into Gaza without causing outright starvation."

Yes, quite the chance to build a productive society. Just above starvation. "Could have been the Singapore of the Middle East!" as Israeli propaganda goes. So duplicitous it's sickening.

Sad humor to see people who promote antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Israeli torture camps----unintended irony I assume. - iknowall

Ahh yes, those anti-semites such as Israeli human rights group B'tselem, Amnesty international and the United Nations Human Rights Council.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell

I think the only point we might agree on is the irony. The irony that a people that once suffered such horrendous persecution now act it out on a daily basis on the Palestinian people.

While the escalating situation led Fuji TV to announce six days later the establishment of an independent third-party investigation, as well as plans to hold another press conference, it faced intensifying calls within the company for top executives to resign.

As with Johnny's decades long openly known sexual abuse ofminors why isn't this a matter police are investigating?

Deep bows, press conferences and hush money do nothing to root out the problem.

Around 750,000 Arabs from the Palestinian territories decided to become citizens of Jordan in 1948. - iknowall

You're confusing facts. 750,000 was the estimated number of Palestinians that either fled or were expelled by Israel in 1948. i.e. the Nakba.

Most ended up in Gaza and the West Bank with others ending up in surrounding Arab states. The UN partition plan proposed the creation of 2 states with Gaza and the West Bank constituting the Palestinian state. Jordan negotiated with Israel and Britain for the annexation of the West Bank excluding the Palestinians themselves.

Palestinian refugees who ended up in the illegally annexed Jordanian controlled West Bank did not become Jordanian citizens.

I have long argued that the only solution to the "Palestinian" issue would be a return of Gaza to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan, but both governments unsurprisingly refuse this. - Zaphod

A bit late to that party I'm afraid. Jordan's King Abdullah was assassinated in 1951 by Palestinians for his illegal annexation of the West Bank. I think that sends a pretty clear message about whether the Palestinians consider themselves Palestinian or a vassal of the Hashemite kingdom.

But ultimately whether the governments of the surrounding Arab countries agree to accept refugees or not is not the point. It's the Palestinian's inalienable right to self-determination that matters.

So they are just “moving”.

but “ethnic cleansing” makes it sound nefarious, so it’s better to use that term falsely.

thanks for the confirmation. - Blacklabel

Unless they don't want to move or you've been destroying hospitals, schools, water treatment systems, cultural and religious sites, agriculture, homes and any and all forms of civilian infrastructure required for people to live. When you've purposefully created an environment that is unlivable.

Then it's ethnic cleansing. Not just ethnic cleansing, genocide.

It's not the belligerent oaf's hamfisted use of the word "clean" that is upsetting people.

It's the fact that he's saying a million and a half people should be moved from their homeland and the region depopulated. You can phrase it any way you want. In content and purpose it's ethnic cleansing.

“You’re talking about a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing,”

Ethnic cleansing.

The only obstacle to Israel and Trump's plan is the Palestinian people themselves who have resisted occupation, ethnic cleansing and genocide for decades.

Israel's defense minister said on Wednesday forces were applying lessons learned in Gaza as a major operation continued in Jenin

In other words, the destruction of civilian infrastructure and disruption of essential services. As the UN is already warning.

"OCHA warns that the ongoing operation by Israeli forces in Jenin is putting people’s safety and welfare at risk, while destroying infrastructure as basic as roads, electricity and water pipes. Ten people have reportedly been killed, with dozens more injured. OCHA warns that since yesterday, the Jenin Government Hospital has been disconnected from the water grid and electricity network."

"We will not allow the arms of the Iranian regime and radical Sunni Islam to endanger the lives of (Israeli) settlers (in the West Bank) and establish a terrorist front east of the state of Israel," he said in a statement.

Israeli colonists living on stolen Palestinian land, not "settlers". The colonists are the terrorists. Over 1,800 attacks on Palestinians since Oct 7th. Averaging 4 a day.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/mapping-1800-israeli-settler-attacks-in-the-occupied-west-bank-since-october-7

Terrorist colonisers being armed and encouraged to carry out attacks on Palestinian civilians by Israel's Minister of National Security Itamar Ben-Gvir. All the while Israel is refusing to investigate or hold to account those carrying out terrorist attacks.

So be aware that when you hear the word "settler" being used is in fact referring to colonists and terrorists.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/settler-violence/