N. Knight comments

the top 3 steel companies above u.s. steel in the u.s. have a market cap of over $75 billion.

They all pale into insignificance when compared to Nippon Steel.

Horrible. Stacked up in shoe boxes. Much happier up on my mountain in a 400sqm house with 3,000 SQM of land and a 120km view (on a very clear day), and a comprehensive wine cellar.

US Steel is dead then.

Had my windows open in Hyogo for the last two days and I'm at about 2,000 feet. Lovely weather. We used to get snowed in years ago. Rarely get anything these days.

Haven't seen a moped for years

All mopeds have pedals. The post office delivery workers use them all over Japan

Trump should stop choosing creepy weirdos.

Birds of a feather....

When someone is that bad that even Trump kicks him out before he has started.

Now Gaetz can continue on with his coke fuelled child rape without other distractions.

When the QAnon and the Maga lunatics were screaming "bring the pedophiles to justice", it now seems they were talking about Gaetz as Attorney General.

validly suspect something was not done properly.

The fact there was even a collision already validates that.

That is an obvious given.

The failure of safety or navigational procedures (whatever they maybe) could be on the part of the tug or the pleasure vessel or both.

We don't know.

Which professional seafarer have come here to argue? what arguments used to prove no lapse in safety happened?

Maritime professionals will argue that no one yet knows. It's quite simple.

It's futile trying to reason with you as you have neither the qualifications or experience to understand these things.

Your suppositions that it's "clearly this" and "obviously that" are nonsense based on the current available data.

This is like you (a seemingly qualified & informed scientific person) trying to argue with anti-vaxxers who regurgitate information they learned on conspiracy theory websites as they think it gives them a qualification, experience or understanding of the subject.

We do not know what happened until an investigation and a report are published.

Quite right.

So according to you this was an expected result and not something that could have been prevented?

Not at all. I'm saying you cannot conclude what happened based on the available data. If you have extra information then present it.

only that it is legally allowed for them to be ignored, which would not refute but instead only explain why they were not using these measures.

Wrong. Of you go on a week's cruise ship holiday you probably will never see a life jacket let along walk around with one on for 7 days. It's not always practicable, similar to many pleasure vessels. You have no idea what happened and the available released data soes not. Indicate anything at all.

Yet the survivor suffered only minor injuries, which would indicate it was well inside of what is expected that the collision itself was not what killed the occupants of the pleasure boat.

Nonsense and illogical. You have no idea of the variables that can occur in a marine accident or collision.

Which is why my comment was: "the pleasure boat was likely not using proper safety measures." not something for sure, but the esparce details surely seem to indicate this.

Wrong... The sparce details do not indicate this at all. It's impossible to say or even speculate with any accuracy with the current available data.

going full speed on a bay with low visibility can also be validly called not having proper safety measures.

Yes of course. There are many many factors that could be. Were they going full speed? Were they relying on AIS instead of more reliable instrumentation. Were either vessel making way, or not making way? Was there a proper watch system in place on either vessel? Were the proper fog procedures being observed. There are hundreds of safety factors that could be a consideration with both vessels. A professional seafare knows them all.

Suggest you leave this one to professional seafarers.

You don't know. I don't know.

3 deaths out of 30 passengers is one thing, 3 out of 4 means nobody was even wearing safety vests.

Often don't wear life jackets. Especially when sleeping and showering, etc.

Pleasure boats can be anything from 5 meters to 50 meters and much much bigger, although safe manning would suggest that with only 4 persons this pleasure boat was about 30 meters max (if you assume they were all crew).

Larger pleasure boats don't require lifejackets to be worn. Foreign registered pleasure vessels all have varied rules dependent on their flag state and class (if any). Plenty of foreign registered pleasure vessels in Japan.

99% of pleasure vessels in Japan are fiberglass and relatively lightweight. 100% of tugs in Japan are steel, heavy and overpowered.

If you're below, sitting on the head squeezing out your early morning cable, then a life jacket is going to do nothing for you when the bow of a steel tug comes crashing through the bulkhead at 12 knots.

You could be right about life jackets. You might be wrong. I don't know. Nor do you.

But if I'm asleep with my mistress in the master stateroom of a 30 meter motor yacht (or producing aforesaid cable), then I'm probably not going to be wearing a life jacket.

This is not the only source of information, other sources like the NHK give more details, there were 4 people on the pleasure boat in total, of which 3 (including the captain and his wife) died, the one person that survived did so because he was rescued by the tugboat

So what? None of that infers fault or bad seamanship practices on either vessel.

Oh I forgot grifters, snake oil salesmen and religious fundamentalists.

Ha ha ha... This is a clown show before it's even started. But the clowns ain't that funny.

Child rapists, sex traffickers, mad conspiracy theorist nutcases, socially awkward megalomaniacs, ego fuelled lunatics, and many many more.

Gents, the article is so vague and ambiguous that it is impossible to draw any inference as to what happened and to who was at fault.

There are hundreds of scenarios that could explain and assign fault that an MAI report in the future will hopefully narrow down.

but 3 dead out of 4 described victims makes it clear the pleasure boat was likely not using proper safety measures.

Nonsense

If they were in fact stationary, and moored at anchor,

Where are you getting this from? I run at night through the seto naikai and so do many others. If they were on anchor (there's no suggestion they were) they should have had crew on anchor watch and also been cognisant to the prevailing conditions

responsibility of the larger 19 tonne tugboat

How do you know it was larger? And what bearing does being larger have on the colregs?

Gaetz - cocaine fuelled kiddy fiddler.

No, but the Department of education should be abolished

Parrot

Wow. A child rapist as Attorney General. Goes well with a child rapist as President.

Now RFK who went barmy after a worm burrowed into his brain, thinks the earth is flat, the moon emits its own light, the secret race of lizard men from outer space is real, and that vaccines cause AIDS is lined up for health secretary.

A weekend warrior fox news presenter is lined up as secretary of defence.

The clown show is developing well.

Still the USA deserves it. It's been descending into lunacy for the last 30 years or more.

Why would you need a car when a horse can do the same job..... It is what I am think with all the anti-progress comment here.

Agreed. I love the way Japan progresses with these infrastructure projects... Otherwise it will just become like UK and America where nothing gets done and the aging and creaking infrastructure is utterly garbage, and you still get charged 5 times more than Japan to use that junk infrastructure.

Infrastructure like this in Japan is the envy of the world. I hope I can ride the Maglev when it is finished.

Why bring Marcus off when he was playing a utter blinder of a game? Our best player yesterday. He was fine while some of the forwards were running out of steam; more of the pack should have benefitted from fresh legs. The bomb squad approach.

I'm not sure what's going on in Borthwick's head. We should have won that game. Bad management from Borthers.

Who cares... Shibuya (along with parts of Roppongi) is the armpit of Japan.

Come on Baystars!!!

Americans who are guilty don't use "I don't remember" as an excuse. They deny the charges completely.

So do innocent Americans.

At the end of the day they're all Americans

At least with Trump we know he’s more than capable of doing the job. He did it for four years and did it well.

Ha ha ha. Superb. The endless comedy of the delusional.

The Japanese airlines at least - yes.

Only business or higher nowadays usually ANA, and a full flat wide bed and lots of pillows, bottle of good vino and a nice steak for dinner. JAL is equally as good but i usually go ANA.

ANA suite lounge is quite chilled out too.

Flew Emirates last year long hail and that wasn't bad, but I don't think it comes close to the Japanese carriers.

Cathay is down the gurgler they are cost cutting so much and it's horrible nowadays.

Virgin has turned to rubbish since Singapore Airlines sold their 49% stake to Delta. BA is pathetic. Air France is a mess.

The US carriers (American, Delta, United) are even worse and are a total joke, worst in the world I reckon. Pikey Air.

Donald Trump is one of the most successful men of our lifetimes.

Ha ha ha. Comedy gold.