Raw Beer comments

Who are the kidnappers? Israel?

Yes!

Hostages were taken on Oct 7 to exchange for the 10,000 or so Palestinians held by israel.

Yeah, but we continue to get a stream of "educated guesses" that are presented as proven scientific consensus, which cannot be questioned even when we present evidence against it.

You never present any evidence, just systematically call the consensus wrong, that has absolutely no value,

You know that is not true. I've often presented evidence from top researchers.

scientists on the other hand continously correct and improve the consensus because they do present the evidence.

Yeah, when their narrative eventually becomes indefensible, they are forced to admit they were wrong.

When a narrative relies on censorship, it's generally a sign that it is knowingly false.

Yet you opportunely forgot that this was always presented as an educated guess since margarine had less saturated fats, at a time where the importance of trans fats was not known.

Yeah, but we continue to get a stream of "educated guesses" that are presented as proven scientific consensus, which cannot be questioned even when we present evidence against it.

Research like this is not useless...

Did they cut funding for this research?

Unlike many topics in nutrition, there seems to be little disagreement that trans fats are horrible for one’s health due to their ability to increase the risk of heart disease, stroke and type 2 diabetes.

I remember a time when the medical consensus was that margarine was the healthy alternative.

U.S. vows to keep hitting Houthis until shipping attacks stop

And the Houthis vow to keep hitting ships until the genocide stops.

Strange, I would have thought that the vast majority of gunshot deaths are from excessive blood loss or damage to vital organs. 

What is strange about it? bacterial infection is also a possible complication, but anybody with common sense would not say it it is treating patients of gunshots with antibiotics, it would only make sense by explicitly mentioning the complication.

Yeah, it's a possible complication, but certainly bacterial infections make up a minuscule fraction of the total casualty count. Of course, nobody would treat a gunshot only with antibiotics, but there is nothing wrong with including it as part of the treatment.

RFKjr was simply describing how some doctors had good results with certain treatments, which included antibiotics. But it seems that you and the authors at health.com thought they had a much desired gotcha moment, incorrectly assuming that RFKjr thought the antibiotics directly targeted viruses, without understanding that bacterial infections following viral infections are a major cause of death.

Certainly, the people at health.com should know better, so why did they write that article to attack RFKjr? Do they have similar funding as factcheck.org?

Or he could just put an end to the Palestinian genocide. That is the reason the ships are attacked.

Thing is that for certain viral infections, a major problem is the secondary bacterial infections

The same for gunshots or diabetes and every other example, that still makes it ridiculous to say "we are treating successfully diabetic patients with antibiotics"

Strange, I would have thought that the vast majority of gunshot deaths are from excessive blood loss or damage to vital organs. I often use an antibiotic ointment for minor scrapes and cuts; are you saying that antibiotics are not given to gunshot victims?

Anyway, since people often suffer from serious bacterial infections following a viral infection, it makes perfect sense to include an antibiotic. Many infectious disease doctors also included antibiotics (usually azithromycin) when treating Covid19.

Also this: "The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs."

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/bacterial-pneumonia-caused-most-deaths-1918-influenza-pandemic

On the opposite this is completely right, antibiotics are not described as the treatment of viral infection, or gunshots, or diabetes, even when bacterial infections can complicate all those things (but is not in any way something WILL complicate on the patients). It is used to treat a very specific complication but not the illness.

Thing is that for certain viral infections, a major problem is the secondary bacterial infections that develop, like pneumonia. Even your own reference above states that this is "the most common cause of death from measles in young children." Didn't you read your reference?

People are so desperate to criticize RFKjr solely because he does not limit himself to new, expensive, patented treatments.

Yes, but it is also well understood (by scientists/doctors, but maybe not by high school students) that bacterial infections often accompany (or follow) viral infections

And that is completely different from his claims, that antibiotics supposedly treat directly Measles.

No, that is completely wrong. Your reference mentions that in his Fox interview, he apparently said that it was used to treat the illness. But if you listen to the actual interview, he says that the antibiotic was used to treat the patients. Plus, as I wrote above, he acknowledges that there are no approved antivirals for measles. He's not the one who is confused.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6369595673112

If RFKjr was really as bad as some make him out to be, there wouldn't be any need for misrepresentations.

And of course, zero evidence to support the claim that antibiotics treat Measles, as even high school student would know (at least in non-US developed countries).

Antibiotics have no effect on a virus like measles. Same thing for colds.

Yes, but it is also well understood (by scientists/doctors, but maybe not by high school students) that bacterial infections often accompany (or follow) viral infections, and they are often the cause of death. This was true for the Spanish flu, Covid, and perhaps even measles.

I mean, when someone genuinely thinks you can cure measles with antibiotics there is not much to say that could present him in a worse light than his own declarations.

Strange, in RFKjr's report from 10 days ago (Measles Outbreak is Call to Action for All of Us), there is no mention of antibiotics.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2025/03/03/measles-outbreak-call-to-action-for-all-of-us.html

*"It is also our responsibility to provide up-to-date guidance on available therapeutic medications. While there is no approved antiviral for those who may be infected, CDC has recently updated their recommendation supporting administration of vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with mild, moderate, and severe infection. Studies have found that vitamin A can dramatically reduce measles mortality."*

So the respected institutes of science (CDC) recommend vitamin A, supported by evidence (https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/39/suppl_1/i48/699532?login=false).

*"Parents play a pivotal role in safeguarding their children’s health. All parents should consult with their healthcare providers to understand their options to get the MMR vaccine. The decision to vaccinate is a personal one. Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons."*

Strange that an "anti-vaxxer" would say this!

*"Tens of thousands died with, or of, measles annually in 19th Century America. By 1960 -- before the vaccine’s introduction -- improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths. Good nutrition remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses. Vitamins A, C, and D, and foods rich in vitamins B12, C, and E should be part of a balanced diet.""*

Still not a scientific argument against the methodologies of the model that support the claim that millions of lives were saved, which means you could not find anything wrong with them, so they are valid and correct.

If those "methodologies" were as valid as you are implying, they would not have been so incredibly wrong in the past. How are the current "methodologies" any better?

They have a long history of massive over exaggerations in their models starting decades ago, especially from Imperial College London.

Yes! A few years ago, Crowder did a good rundown of their history of modelling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeorYF9A-k

And since they are based on these faulty model predictions, estimates of "lives saved" are equally faulty.

Despite the rapid development of a breakthrough mRNA vaccine that offered hope for what President Joe Biden euphorically termed “independence from the virus,” the promise never fully materialized.

Too few people received shots, in large part due to socioeconomic factors.

The promise never materialized, not because "too few people received them", but rather because their safety, effectiveness, and duration were not as advertised.

What COVID-19 taught many people is the level of control that corporations have on the regulators, publishers, MSM, and governments; pushing them to censor/prohibit cheap safe and effective measures while promoting new expensive products of questionable safety and effectiveness. A poll taken in 2024 concluded that only about a quarter of the American public had faith in scientists to act in the people's best interests.

The huge seed oil industry fuels much of the farm and food industry in the US, which fund most of the nutrition research. So of course "the science" will say that seed oils are healthy.

But I'd rather listen to the scientists (not "influencers") who are not connected to these industries. They have documented the many health issues associated with seed oils.

There is no benefit of ingesting it, that cannot be achieved by having it in toothpaste/mouth rinse.

It should be made available to those who want it, and taken out of the water supply.

It doesn't make sense to add fluoride to our drinking water, considering the neurological effects, especially when consumed by young children and pregnant women. If someone wants to get it in their teeth, let them use toothpaste or oral rinses with fluoride.

RFKjr is not any more "anti-vax" than Ralph Nader was "anti-car" for wanting to increase car safety with seat belts.

RFKjr routinely spreads false information,

Says you.

is on record saying he does not consider any vaccine safe and effective several times, it is difficult to be more antivax than that, openly antivaxx groups do say he is one of them.

He is correct. He is not saying they are unsafe. He is saying they have yet to be adequately tested for safety.

He is not saying there should be no vaccines. He is saying the vaccines should be adequately tested. He is not anti-vax, he is pro-safe-vax.

We can expect cases to increase as the generation that has long-lived natural immunity dies off. Immunity conferred by vaccination is not as good and doesn't last as long.

"A little girl in this mostly Mennonite congregation was among those who’d fallen ill with the highly contagious respiratory disease, senior pastor David Klassen said — but she’s doing fine, and she happily played through her quarantine."

Oh dear! Anyway, now that little girl is protected....

RFKjr is not any more "anti-vax" than Ralph Nader was "anti-car" for wanting to increase car safety with seat belts.

Taking health info from social media and not actual doctors is completely insane.

Indeed, but social media has lots of actual doctors/scientists specializing in various fields who offer great content that goes against the corporate narrative.

Indeed, but social media has lots of fake doctors/scientists specializing in various fields who want yout to believe that actual doctors are liars in order to sell you their own pills

Fixed it for you, buddy.

Yes, both real and fake doctors/scientists are on social media. One must be intelligent and discerning enough to understand the difference.

Ditch the sugar

Even better is ditch the carbs.

This is as useful as saying to an alcoholic "just stop drinking", is an obvious solution that solves nothing. Anything simple that you can think off has been already tried without success by countless patients and their doctors.

What most doctors say regarding eating is as useful as saying to an alcoholic "drink in moderation" or "drink in a balanced manner".

"" I believe providing more varied viewpoints supports our journalistic mission and will help readers navigate the issues facing this nation.""

AMEN. may be more and more news outlets should start doing the same instead of only publishing what their Masters & Sponsors $$ wants them to ! ! it's called Mind Control and Propaganda

I sort of agree, but I suspect the AI will gather most (all?) of its information from mainstream narratives.

What you call the ”corporate narrative” is just the scientific consensus based on the best available evidence, you not being able to accept it as correct in no way make the doctors acting according to it irresponsible.

What you call the "best available evidence" is just the data provided by studies funded by corporations, you not being able to accept the conflicts of interests in no way makes the doctors questioning the data irresponsible.

We've seen clear examples during the pandemic when many studies were proving the effectiveness of certain products, except for a few pharma-funded studies. And of course, you automatically wrote that the latter were better studies, without providing any valid reasons.

Taking health info from social media and not actual doctors is completely insane.

Indeed, but social media has lots of actual doctors/scientists specializing in various fields who offer great content that goes against the corporate narrative.

That is what actually happened, people died because of being mislead by unethical unprofessional doctors that were wrong the whole time. Some still repeat the same disinformation (in any outlet that lets them) well knowing that this cause unnecessary deaths. Ignorant "influencers" take advantage of the excuse of not being health professionals, doctors don't have this easy exit and should be made responsible for their actions.

The exact same thing applies to the doctors pushing the corporate narrative.